Finnish Citizenship application and divorcing

[Rip]

does it mean if a person who does not speak Finnish , so she can not have Finnish citizenship, then no matter how many years she is here, she is always in the risk of being cancerled?

Are there that many countries where you can get a citizenship without talking one of the official languages of that country? Are there countries where a residence permit can not be canceled?
There are countries (unlike Finland) where even a citizenship given years ago can be revoked.

[HongJiang]

does it mean if a person who does not speak Finnish , so she can not have Finnish citizenship, then no matter how many years she is here, she is always in the risk of being cancerled?

Are there that many countries where you can get a citizenship without talking one of the official languages of that country? Are there countries where a residence permit can not be canceled?
There are countries (unlike Finland) where even a citizenship given years ago can be revoked.

True, for example in China , sometimes they can cancel the citizenship of Chinese, even they are born in China and 100 percent Chinese. but I only think this should not happen in a democratic country.

[HongJiang]

does it mean if a person who does not speak Finnish , so she can not have Finnish citizenship, then no matter how many years she is here, she is always in the risk of being cancerled?

Are there that many countries where you can get a citizenship without talking one of the official languages of that country? Are there countries where a residence permit can not be canceled?
There are countries (unlike Finland) where even a citizenship given years ago can be revoked.

Also Rip, there is a Thai, she lives with a finnish man for 7 years, she could not speak Finnish ,unfortunately. So u think it is fine if she is divorced, she should be deported?

Well, she could not speak Finnish or Swedish, so she can not have Finnish citizenship, I understand this, but I think at least she has the right to stay , since she moved her for the Finnish man, On the human right part ,I think she could stay.

but any way, that is not my case, I speak fluent Finnish. But I also worry I will also be canceled as well. Since the law is not clear about how can be cancerled, who not, it just shows, police will handle case by case.

[Rip]

Also Rip, there is a Thai, she lives with a finnish man for 7 years, she could not speak Finnish ,unfortunately. So u think it is fine if she is divorced, she should be deported?

One can apply for permanent permit after four years on A status, such as being a spouse of a citizen. After you get that, a divorce would have no effect on the permit.

Four years is less than seven.

Any set number of years has complications attached to it. I can understand if you feel "unlucky" with your marriage of about three years, even if I think the real problems are less than you think or are afraid of, but we have problems with sham marriages with the current rules and giving the permanent permit after three or two years would pretty obviously make them worse.

[HongJiang]

Also Rip, there is a Thai, she lives with a finnish man for 7 years, she could not speak Finnish ,unfortunately. So u think it is fine if she is divorced, she should be deported?

One can apply for permanent permit after four years on A status, such as being a spouse of a citizen. After you get that, a divorce would have no effect on the permit.

Four years is less than seven.

Any set number of years has complications attached to it. I can understand if you feel "unlucky" with your marriage of about three years, even if I think the real problems are less than you think or are afraid of, but we have problems with sham marriages with the current rules and giving the permanent permit after three or two years would pretty obviously make them worse.

Hey, thanks for your reply. I want to know when they count me as divorced? Is it when after 6 months of colding time , or during the colding time. What kind of status I am in? The law here said my case 3 years living together with avioliitossa, 2 year B, which is 1 year A, plus my colding time just started, which will take 6 months or longer, my wife wants me to have citizenship and wait for her to come back at least in one year.

Also I want to wait my wife. By the way, in Finland what is counted as sham marriage? I know some Thai come to Finland because of other reasons not true love. But I want to know how they count sham marriage. Thanks

[Cony]

I don't understand why you wanna go to police? Are you divorced? Na, so you should wait till your divorce is finalized! Someone said your main priority should be to keep you A permit, and I agree. You have three years, try to make it four. I don't know if one of parties disagree to divorce does it make a change in the duration and time that court decide , but if so, I think you should step back and simply say" honey I love you and wait until you come back".

Don't agree to anything, don't sign anything because then you're obliged to obey it . Wish you good luck and I'm sorry for what has happened.

[HongJiang]

I don't understand why you wanna go to police? Are you divorced? Na, so you should wait till your divorce is finalized! Someone said your main priority should be to keep you A permit, and I agree. You have three years, try to make it four. I don't know if one of parties disagree to divorce does it make a change in the duration and time that court decide , but if so, I think you should step back and simply say" honey I love you and wait until you come back".

Don't agree to anything, don't sign anything because then you're obliged to obey it . Wish you good luck and I'm sorry for what has happened.

Thanks for ur reply, I go to the police , just becaue I worry I will suddenly become illegal immediately. Because from some Afganstans and Iraqs who told me what happened to them, now I start to worry about myself now, because my home is here now, so I am so concered, and yes. My Swedish- Finnish wife is on my side currently, because we are true love, we knew each other much much mcuh longer than the marriage time, if the police need provement , we even could give the provement.

Scared to be illegal once when I wake up from the bed.

Thanks for your care.

[Oombongo]

sorry to know about your situation where you are being cuckolded for weeks on end and you know very well about it, and then uncertainty about your stay in Finland.
While your lady is currently on your side but you really can't rely on her. She might feel sorry for you for a while or for a month but there is already a fella warming her up while you are worrying about this matter.
You may contact the police with a very hypothetical scenario for your required information. It won't raise any flags as far as I can tell.
And whatever you have heard about experiences from Iraqis and Afghans may not apply to you. If I may write some naked truth, China has a good reputation in Finland compare to countries from those regions.

[HongJiang]

sorry to know about your situation where you are being cuckolded for weeks on end and you know very well about it, and then uncertainty about your stay in Finland.
While your lady is currently on your side but you really can't rely on her. She might feel sorry for you for a while or for a month but there is already a fella warming her up while you are worrying about this matter.
You may contact the police with a very hypothetical scenario for your required information. It won't raise any flags as far as I can tell.
And whatever you have heard about experiences from Iraqis and Afghans may not apply to you. If I may write some naked truth, China has a good reputation in Finland compare to countries from those regions.

Thanks for ur repay, I called immigrantion office and local police station to ask about my situation, they told me they do not know.

Hahahaha, I think I only can smile now. What does they do not know mean???

[Upphew]

Hey, thanks for your reply. I want to know when they count me as divorced? Is it when after 6 months of colding time , or during the colding time.

You are married until court grants the divorce. Which can happen after the 6 months or instantly after living separately for two years. http://www.infopankki.fi/en/living-in-f ... ly/divorce

[HongJiang]

Hey, thanks for your reply. I want to know when they count me as divorced? Is it when after 6 months of colding time , or during the colding time.

You are married until court grants the divorce. Which can happen after the 6 months or instantly after living separately for two years. http://www.infopankki.fi/en/living-in-f ... ly/divorce

Thanks for ur information, Ok so I am continuing as a married person before the 6 months or 2 years over.

Does it mean, I am safe during the periond , that police will not keep me in jail as a prisoner?

[HerraMopsi]

They might even cancer you.

[Upphew]

Does it mean, I am safe during the periond , that police will not keep me in jail as a prisoner?

What have you done that would get you thrown to jail? Nothing has changed yet, you are still married. You are married even after the 6 months. You are not married when the 6 months has passed and one of you has filed for divorce again.

[HongJiang]

Does it mean, I am safe during the periond , that police will not keep me in jail as a prisoner?

No you're not safe, you will be apprehended as soon as possible and "jailed as a prisoner" and will be sentenced to hard labor and then deported because you've committed a very serious crime!

really?

[macora]

Does it mean, I am safe during the periond , that police will not keep me in jail as a prisoner?

What have you done that would get you thrown to jail?

Since it seems to worry you so much, that is actually the question. What have you done that you would be thrown to jail?

People who actually are thrown to jail in the west most often do not tell the true story, why. The Iraqi you read about most likely did not tell the entire story, why he was in jail.

And remember to write cancel with l not r. Or them westerners get a fit of laughter every time they read it I guess.