How the hell do I fund this masters?!

[Pursuivant]

pursuivant

you don't gain much from the negative posting? And it certainly doesn't aid the goal of this thread, IF I was a friend of yours, would you scratch your head and try find solutions or say the same things?

If I was your friend, I'd have your rents commit you to a nice sanitorium. If you were a non-EU, you'd need to cough up some 7000 euros yearly to get a residence permit. And that is the "calculated minimum", so I wouldn't budge unless I had at least 10k under my belt.

People have been handing out CV's for up to 9 months with no success? WELL that means...

1. They are on Kela benefits, and able to stay unemployed in Finland for up to 9 months and survive.

2. They are incredibly wealthy and can afford to not work for 9 months.

3. They are living at home or crashing at a friends / relatives.

I can not get Kela, I am not wealthy and I don't have any friends or relatives I can live with for 9 months free of all living expenses.

Exactly. None of which 1,2 and 3 would make you any more employable. Now as you don't have 1,2 or 3 then which part of "you are positively stupid" can you not calculate the maths.

Move if you have plan B that works (=enough cash to survive). You at least have "something to do" instead of moving to Nowheremäki with the gf's parents onto the farm because its cheap.

Then we see posts titled as:
"Moving to Finland"
"English speking jobs in Nowheremäki"
"Carpet-layer available"
"Depressed during winter"
"Divorce in Finland"
"Rights of father"

When the answer to the first post - if they'd read it - would have helped to avoid the classic scenario but nono, think positive.

[fineng3]

Thanks again for all the comments.

I am not naive (I missed out the one possibility that someone spanks their life savings on the move). And I don't think the 'negative' replies to my 'enthusiastic' questions is isolated to this forum or Finns… It is an internet culture and the largest reason I disdain forums. I could be on a guitar forum, asking about jazz set ups and id get someone saying 'this question again?!' , ' with your budget good luck m8' , ' as if you can even play well enough to merit such equipment' etc etc etc.

People enjoy ragging on people in forums…

I can quite easily skip past that, this hasn't been entirely fruitless! I have had some PM's that have led to further reading and positive steps. Im possibly the most negative person I know, so I'm FULLY aware of the pit-falls and risks involved, and I tend to lean more towards the school of thought things will go this way!

In my initial post i attempted to convey I am pretty well versed in Finnish culture. Yes they answer bluntly sometimes, but every Fin I've met in real life can see my goal, passion and intent and WILL give the 'blunt answer' and then their want to help / inner strategist comes in and aids to help strategically.

Im not looking for false hope, or even a miracle, i just hoped that upon negativity being aired a discussion could begin, negating long winded 'sarcastic posts'… With all the work I've put in, as IF i want to move to Finland to marry a girl, be on the dole, inevitabley break up with her and come home broke. My goal was to get HONEST friendly advice off the back of this thread and I have via PM.

I will see you in Finland

[Pursuivant]

No, Finns just love people coming in and expecting handouts. See now, my logic is: "If you are a self-propelled vibrator - get the gf to buy the batteries!"

[fineng3]

Dude you got me, I want to come live in Finland to be on the dole and get every single benefit I can get, you win

[cors187]

Dude you got me, I want to come live in Finland to be on the dole and get every single benefit I can get, you win

mate im not a fin , neither a doley, infact i cant get the dole, i just get the boot from Finland,,, but unfortunately your chances are so hit and miss here that not one constant, like higher education changes the ratio of you hitting or missing.
Actually there is one constant, if you wave future capital in front of your future employer , yep that works.

Most of us are hoping you hit , but the reality could be a miss and if you "miss" the ratio of "KELA" to the rescue is really high.
I have seen it personally and i know for a fact that if the environment is right for the "KELA JOB", then the EU doesnt go home so fast and as one english speaker to another, "its time for milking the cow".
Its proven!

[neronakos]

Well I can tell you by experience, since I came here to do my masters. So if you are a student, you are lucky enough to have a HOAS appartment which will be cheap enough comparing to the normal housing prices. Appart from that, if you don't have some money yourself you can try to find a part-time job which is very difficult if you don't speak Finnish. Kela won't pay you any money, because you are coming as a student. It all depends on what you will be registered to maistraati. I am sorry to tell you but being enthusiastic alone doesn't help.
If you go to register to maistraati you need either to have enough money on your account (yes even if you are from EU these days) in order to register as something else or you will just register as a student. So then, you won't get any Kela benefits.
In my case, I was very lucky to go to a paid internship place for 3 months and then they kept me for working part-time, so this way I managed to survive. Otherwise, I had spent all my economies (have in mind that you will need 700-1000 euros per month) and I was ready to leave the country.
Well, if you want something else, that I forgot, just send me a message.

[betelgeuse]

If you go to register to maistraati you need either to have enough money on your account (yes even if you are from EU these days) in order to register as something else or you will just register as a student. So then, you won't get any Kela benefits.

It's the police that places you in a category and checks your financials.