Neighbor with demoniacal kid

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by jordana1987 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:41 pm

StellaS wrote:How old is the kid? If it's a small baby, the crying usually stops at around four months, or at latest by the age of six months. Some babies just cry, and there's nothing you or doctors or anybody can do about it.

But you should be aware that nobody can be given a warning or ordered to move away because of noise made by small children. The noise is considered to be a part of "normal
living sounds", which should just be tolerated. However, if the kid is older, a teen or at least close to that age, you can go and talk to the mother about the problem. Don't write any notes, especially not anonymous ones.

The child is more or less between 4 or 5 years maximum



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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by llewellyn » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:28 pm

Being a parent to an autistic 7 year old son, I find it totally possible that the child could be autistic. You can't usually tell it from the looks, but being loud and not in an age-typical way is quite common. I would not contact the neighbours or the mother without knowing if it really is a case of disability.

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by jordana1987 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:13 pm

Is totally normal child. Please guys stop to say he is authistic cause is NOT!! Absolutely not!! He is normal in his non-normal attitude :p

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by biscayne » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:36 pm

Some of the posters, along with the OP are quite funny, and very obviously from people who have never had children or much contact with them.

To the person who was annoyed that you cannot play loud music but a screaming child is ok - do you realise that this is because loud music is played by choice, the sound can be altered at will and this must in fact be done if the neighbours complain or it is after a certain time at night? Screaming child - would you like to explain exactly how one stops a child from screaming, if said child does not want to? Tip: You cannot slap, beat or otherwise physically abuse the child in order to make it quiet. A small child does not respond to requests to stop crying or screaming, amazingly enough....

That said, as others have posted, it could be colic (my daughters cousin had it and screamed endlessly for a year), autism, a number of chromosomal/genetic defects also lead to non-stop screaming. Can you imagine the life of the mother/parents? Horrible. Have some empathy as it may be a disability. There is a difference between incessant crying and "bad behaviour" - if a child in your complex is damaging your property, or doing something to deliberately annoy you, those are grounds for contacting the parents but crying is not, unless you ask politely if the child is sick.

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by leisl » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:23 pm

jordana1987 wrote:Is totally normal child. Please guys stop to say he is authistic cause is NOT!! Absolutely not!! He is normal in his non-normal attitude :p
You don't know this.

If you knew this then you'd be on intimate chatting terms with the mother and you could act like a mature adult and have a conversation with her instead of being a whiny, entitled, over-emotional complaining cry-baby.

I think we know which is the annoying spoilt brat in your building.

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by Raging Kuma » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:56 pm

im sorry i find your post quite funny, in the apparement i live in there almost always here lots of different sounds from kids playing to people having sex to just them talking or watching the tv. One day i had a heahache from hell and kinda said to my other half aarrgg my god cant they just be quite for just 5 minutes, a few months later and i barly notice it, its become just normal back ground noise sort of the same as living next to a road or railway station.

one person (sorry i read so many names i forgot your name) said a very good point, its just normal every day live, this might be a long shot, but think about all the noise you make moving around, getting up at 5 in the morning to go to work, closing the doors and getting washed and dressed, think of all the noise your making, and think that is 5am the people in the apparments around you might HATE you for the noise you make at that time. have any of them said anything to you, no, oh i didnt think so.

on a last note, one of the people in the apparment around me got annoyed with someone screaming one night so they went and called the landlord and they seem to have stopped them screaming for a while, why not follow that example. (they were a finnish man in there 60's at least)

otherwise just try and enjoy your day op

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:35 pm

Maybe you should get a boy/girl/battery-operated friend, and start having really loud sex to compensate? :lol:
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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by Tiwaz » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:39 pm

First thing, before thinking of ANY letters or reports is to eliminate your own memory bias from your claim.

Essentially, write down date and time when crying starts. Then write down when it ends. Without exception.

Why? Because your memory has bias. It does not pay attention to times that are quiet, but remember all the times it is not. Only once you have credible information you can say if there is problem with kid or your attitude. Odds are that it is your attitude. Because if noise was constant, you would have phased it out. I have kids and I do not notice noise they make when they play. It is regular background noise for me. Though when noise either increases, or even worse disappears, it takes very little time to get me alert.

And another thing is... Kids make noise, that is life. Those kids are the future, so we have to give them slack. Or perhaps you are planning to remove yourself from the ranks of the living before becoming infirm and needing some young folks to help you out. Those young folks have to be birthed and raised by someone, process which does involve noise.

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Re: Neighbor with demoniacal kid

Post by Piet » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:52 pm

jordana1987 wrote:Hi guys, please I need your precious help in writing a letter (in Finnish) to put under my neighbors doors due to a woman with her child who are living in the first floor, and her kid is making such an annoying noise every single day by crying and screaming sooooo loudly!! I am sure that even my other neighbors are tired to listen to that noise every single day at every single hour..that's why I was thinking to write a warning letter to put under her door, but I need your help because I need to write it in Finnish, so I can send a copy to all my other neighbors to collect the signatures.
Please guys I really need your help.
Kiitos ;)
Besides of what everyone else already said, there is nothing else you can legally do than:
1) move to a housing complex with thicker walls and better sound proofing, because wherever you go you will have a problem with sound if the walls are the same as yours are now.
2) move to a house that has no joint walls with other neigbours
3) move to a country where it illegal to make noise whatever the source :lightbulb:
4) buy ear plugs (even-though you point out this is not your solution)

I will not make you a list of all the illegal things you can do 8) (that would make me an accessory to illegal behaviour / action).

So take your pick from the mentioned list.

PS remember that a crying /screaming kid, when it is your own, will immediately raise your heartbeat and blood pressure, also raise the level of stress hormones in your body to incredible heights, so I cannot believe that it is any parent's wish to let this continue, the reason must be sought in inability of the parent to solve it. So therefore writing a warning letter will do more harm then good (raises the parent's stress levels and blood pressure even more).

You could however write the parents a letter in what you explain that you noticed some problem with the kid due to the surplus of crying and screaming you hear. In this letter you can offer your help if they need any, with solving the screaming and crying thing of the kid (if you can / have the ability to really help). This way you make them aware of your "noticing", but you stay friendly and offer your help (in this way indirectly saying it bothers you). In this context: don't forget to mention that children might behave better in the presence of a stranger (you).

Good luck with it and don't bother to write anything in Finnish, most Finnish people with young kids are able to read English (speaking is something totally different).
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