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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by greenhorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:05 am

raamv wrote:
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The assumption is that if one is rich, and is happy with job/education situation, then he/she won't go to a foreign country for study or work.
Thats not how the MITS, Harvards, UCBs, Yales and the Stanfords, got their money !!
The rich and happy lack pride and so go off to the rich and happy schools/Univs abroad where they spend their moneys to get a rich education!!
Yeah, Harvard came to my mind. So if they are coming for that, they would go to Harvard and not Finland !

So of one comes to Finland for education, chances are that they will stick around for job and pay some tax !
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:07 am

greenhorn wrote:Yeah, Harvard came to my mind. So if they are coming for that, they would go to Harvard and not Finland !
Thats one of the reasons to merge the universities...so you can compete with Them...
and One of the Univs in HEL was rated as top 100 in the world.. so only 99 to go!! :wink:
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by greenhorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:09 am

raamv wrote:
greenhorn wrote:Yeah, Harvard came to my mind. So if they are coming for that, they would go to Harvard and not Finland !
Thats one of the reasons to merge the universities...so you can compete with Them...
and One of the Univs in HEL was rated as top 100 in the world.. so only 99 to go!! :wink:
Then they will start charging 100 grands! :D

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Post by Hank W. » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:11 am

antstar wrote:so now i'm just a slob
Well... Finn... Finlander... "Finnish Resident" so "Finndent"?

Anyways, as you are now one of us and not one of them, you have the same obligations and rights. Like you driving with a car with UK plates is illegal as Finnish residents may not drive foreign cars. So thats customs impound once your neighbor rats on you :twisted: So then you can go do your masters degree and get the KELA subsidy for the bus pass. Its the magic of being in the computer. See now we don't need physical ID cards as we don't live like pigs in the field - on the counter side they can trace us if we crap in the pigsty... or like I can get your last years tax records with a text message. Two sides of the coin...
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Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:13 am

greenhorn wrote:
raamv wrote:
greenhorn wrote:Yeah, Harvard came to my mind. So if they are coming for that, they would go to Harvard and not Finland !
Thats one of the reasons to merge the universities...so you can compete with Them...
and One of the Univs in HEL was rated as top 100 in the world.. so only 99 to go!! :wink:
Then they will start charging 100 grands! :D
So, then Even 10 Indian , or 100 Chinese Students will be better than 100 of em for cost !!
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Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:15 am

Hank W. wrote: or like I can get your last years tax records with a text message. Two sides of the coin...
To avoid this, The catch here is to have a very difficult last name and a very vague kuntapaikka!!
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by antstar » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:16 am

Hank W. wrote:
antstar wrote:so now i'm just a slob
Well... Finn... Finlander... "Finnish Resident" so "Finndent"?

Anyways, as you are now one of us and not one of them, you have the same obligations and rights. Like you driving with a car with UK plates is illegal as Finnish residents may not drive foreign cars. So thats customs impound once your neighbor rats on you :twisted: So then you can go do your masters degree and get the KELA subsidy for the bus pass. Its the magic of being in the computer. See now we don't need physical ID cards as we don't live like pigs in the field - on the counter side they can trace us if we crap in the pigsty... or like I can get your last years tax records with a text message. Two sides of the coin...
My neighbour loves me :ochesey:
He has even learnt to say "hiya" in the morning :thumbsup:
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:18 am

antstar wrote: My neighbour loves me :ochesey:
He has even learnt to say "hiya" in the morning :thumbsup:
A sign that he makes more than you!!
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:19 am

raamv wrote:
greenhorn wrote:
raamv wrote: Thats one of the reasons to merge the universities...so you can compete with Them...
and One of the Univs in HEL was rated as top 100 in the world.. so only 99 to go!! :wink:
Then they will start charging 100 grands! :D
So, then Even 10 Indian , or 100 Chinese Students will be better than 100 of em for cost !!
This comes to the point mentioned by Hank. If you start charging for education, then you start competing in the free market of education and you better have 'good return of investment'.
I am sure then the percentage of foreign students will go down.

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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by antstar » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:21 am

raamv wrote:
antstar wrote: My neighbour loves me :ochesey:
He has even learnt to say "hiya" in the morning :thumbsup:
A sign that he makes more than you!!
:ochesey:
alot more probably and for half the time! :?
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:22 am

greenhorn wrote:I am sure then the percentage of foreign students will go down.
Its OK if the no. goes down if the revenue is the same!!
Currently, pray tell me where the revenue comes from ?
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Post by greenhorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:25 am

raamv wrote:
greenhorn wrote:I am sure then the percentage of foreign students will go down.
Its OK if the no. goes down if the revenue is the same!!
Currently, pray tell me where the revenue comes from ?
What I meant is this - if the numbers go down, then it would not be a problem anymore. So back to free education.

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Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:28 am

greenhorn wrote: What I meant is this - if the numbers go down, then it would not be a problem anymore. So back to free education.
wrong..The cost still remains the same..so it will be skimmed of tax payers!!
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by greenhorn » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:33 am

raamv wrote:
greenhorn wrote: What I meant is this - if the numbers go down, then it would not be a problem anymore. So back to free education.
wrong..The cost still remains the same..so it will be skimmed of tax payers!!
5 free seats + 95 seats paid by taxes, is always better than 10 free seats + 95 tax paid seats. Assuming the revenues always come from taxes.

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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by raamv » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:35 am

antstar wrote:
raamv wrote:
antstar wrote: My neighbour loves me :ochesey:
He has even learnt to say "hiya" in the morning :thumbsup:
A sign that he makes more than you!!
:ochesey:
alot more probably and for half the time! :?
they sometimes call them management!! :mrgreen:
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