extra money for low salary?

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Re: extra money for low salary?

Post by Hank W. » Wed May 28, 2008 9:25 am

johnnymauser wrote: I am an undergraduate student in the field of audio engineering. I don't want to take to many courses 'cause i want to concentrate on the work i will be doing. Which will not be part of any exchange program. And actually i don't now whether it works as some kind of traineeship thing, but it is terminated to 10 month.

Well, it sounds like one for sure. Is it full-time e.g. 9-17 office job or something else? Or some kind of project??? Because it surely doesn't come out as a "real job" more like a research assistant position.
could imagine to study at TKK audio engineering or at Sibelius Akatemia music technology.


Do they have English degree programmes, as otherwise its in Finnish. And if you are a student somewhere else maybe you should look into the Erasmus exchange or some other exchange options, as then you don't need to worry about the entrance examinations.
For sure it is hard to live from 400é's a month though, when you as well have to pay rent. When i applied for the job, i thought rent is for free, but is not.
Well that definitely whacks your budget off. But that sort of "pocket money" isn't really a "real job", so you'd need to try and find another one on the side. Which of course is easy as anything as jobs hide in the bushes and jump to bite people in the nose. :wink: Audio engineering is a niche job if any though, so your best bet is to network once you get here - provding your schedules let go.


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Re: extra money for low salary?

Post by TampereOwl » Wed May 28, 2008 1:18 pm

Hank W. wrote:
sinikala wrote: Do we really?

3 200 UK Citizens in Finland (2007)
11 228 Finnish Citizens in the UK (2001).

Your countrymen seem to be making pretty good use of Ryanair - which fits with the crowds of Juntti I've seen getting hammered on the way to Stansted.
How many of those 11000 are nurses working for the NHS? Or kitchen slaves a.k.a housewives? The difference is my countrymen SPEAK ENGLISH AND ARE READILY EMPLOYABLE whereas your countrymen are no-speak chavs that try in vain to find a job laying carpets to bogs.
I'm glad we're not dealing with idiotic generalisations in this thread, anyway. That'd just be retarded.

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Re: extra money for low salary?

Post by sammy » Wed May 28, 2008 1:21 pm

johnnymauser wrote:I am an undergraduate student in the field of audio engineering. I don't want to take to many courses 'cause i want to concentrate on the work i will be doing. Which will not be part of any exchange program. And actually i don't now whether it works as some kind of traineeship thing, but it is terminated to 10 month.
Erm, hum, so suddenly it's not an exchange programme after all? To be honest I find it a bit strange that you apparently have been given a job/traineeship/whatchamacallit for 10 months at the TKY, and you've accepted, but you do not really know what it is? I trust you do remember where, when and why you applied for this job? :wink:

In any case, if it is not a traineeship but a "full-time job", then I'd say 400€ per month is quite low indeed.

If I were you, I'd get the situation sorted out asap -in your own head as well- re. what your 'job' is and whether it's a traineeship or a 'proper job'... and then contact KELA about any possible allowance for housing, and whether there'd be any chance for you to receive it.

http://www.kela.fi/in/internet/english.nsf
Office for International Affairs: inter.helsinki@kela.fi

The difficult thing is that while you are a student, you are not a student studying in Finland (at least not yet!). As you surely must know, even Erasmus exchange students are not "studying in Finland" in the sense that they'd be eligible for study support from KELA. They are doing their degree to a foreign university.

Let's say you start your job at the TKY, then after some time (whenever the degree programmes have their application times) you apply to the university of your interest, and pass the entrance exams & receive a study placement... then you might have a theoretical chance of getting the KELA student grant - since your original purpose for coming to Finland would probably not have been "for studying". But I do not know how likely this would be.

As said earlier, getting student allowance, or (student housing allowance) from KELA requires that your studies should be full-time degree studies, so just taking a couple of courses would not make you eligible for study grants etc (it's the same for Finns, btw - you've got to be registered as a degree student to qualify... for example, open university students can not get study allowance from the gov't)... and this is true even if your stay in Finland would somehow be considered "permanent".

Someone mentioned scholarships - yes, they do exist but usually they're for postgraduates only.

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Re: extra money for low salary?

Post by sinikala » Wed May 28, 2008 1:59 pm

TampereOwl wrote:
Hank W. wrote:
sinikala wrote: Do we really?

3 200 UK Citizens in Finland (2007)
11 228 Finnish Citizens in the UK (2001).

Your countrymen seem to be making pretty good use of Ryanair - which fits with the crowds of Juntti I've seen getting hammered on the way to Stansted.
How many of those 11000 are nurses working for the NHS? Or kitchen slaves a.k.a housewives? The difference is my countrymen SPEAK ENGLISH AND ARE READILY EMPLOYABLE whereas your countrymen are no-speak chavs that try in vain to find a job laying carpets to bogs.
I'm glad we're not dealing with idiotic generalisations in this thread, anyway. That'd just be retarded.
:lol:

Henrik is totally wrong as per ... the Finns living in England (surely well over 15,000 today) are all Koff chugging drunks that try in vain to find jobs installing saunas, whilst sponging off the Department of Stealth and Total Obscurity (or whatever they call it nowadays) to feed their Heinz beanz habit.

This girl is absolutely the exception that proves the rule ... http://www.europe.org.uk/index/-/id/405/
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