Private tutor?

[J.Honkanen]

Here's one of the easiest to understand Finnish songs I've come across so far (it even has Finnish sub-titles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey_Ogbi7hlU

[raamv]

Irving Texas has a sizable Finnish population because of its Connecting people connections..

[J.Honkanen]

Irving Texas has a sizable Finnish population because of its Connecting people connections..

I'm not in Texas anymore. I live in California now. There are some Finnish orginazations in this general area, but nobody has returned any of my e-mails yet. And it's been months.

[raamv]

Irving Texas has a sizable Finnish population because of its Connecting people connections..

I'm not in Texas anymore. I live in California now. There are some Finnish orginazations in this general area, but nobody has returned any of my e-mails yet. And it's been months.

Where is Cali? I might be able to help with some contacts!!

[J.Honkanen]

I'm in Sacramento, California. About 2 hours away from San Francisco. If you have contacts, raamv, I'd love more info.

[raamv]

I'm in Sacramento, California. About 2 hours away from San Francisco. If you have contacts, raamv, I'd love more info.

There is a sizable Finnish population there as well as TEKES institutes..in SIlican Valley.
I will ask some of my contacts and post later...

[J.Honkanen]

Is that the 1984 Niskavuori you ordered, J? I really didn't think it was on DVD. There have been a couple of earlier ones in B&W. I believe they were all quite popular in their time.

I have no doubt you will enjoy and learn from the one you ordered, I'm just doubtful whether it's the one I've praised so highly. I wouldn't want you to watch it and then wonder what on earth I was going on about...

The 1984 one is in color and stars Esko Salminen, Satu Silvo, and Rauni Luoma, all icons of modern Finnish cinema -- at least they still were 20 years ago. 1984 Niskavuori

If it's one of the older ones, let me know what you think after watching, because I haven't actually seen them.

Just finished watching the older version of Niskavouri. I thought it was good. Of course, it does not have English sub titles so I missed a lot of what was happening. For the purposes of tuning my ear to Finnish though, I think it worked well.

[onkko]

Im sorry but i just cant get this out of my mind

Im your private tutor
A tutor for money
Ill do what you want me to do
Im your private tutor
A tutor money
Any old music will do

[Richard]

Im sorry but i just cant get this out of my mind

Im your private tutor
A tutor for money
Ill do what you want me to do
Im your private tutor
A tutor money
Any old music will do

Is your inner whore trying to get out onkko?

[J.Honkanen]

Im sorry but i just cant get this out of my mind

Im your private tutor
A tutor for money
Ill do what you want me to do
Im your private tutor
A tutor money
Any old music will do

Um...... what exactly is it you are offering here Onkko? Am I missing something?

[onkko]

Im sorry but i just cant get this out of my mind

Im your private tutor
A tutor for money
Ill do what you want me to do
Im your private tutor
A tutor money
Any old music will do

Um...... what exactly is it you are offering here Onkko? Am I missing something?

Im not offering anything, somehow topic just got in loop in my head and reminded me of



With bit different words

[J.Honkanen]

Ah, I get it now. Bit slow on the uptake today.

[Bubba Elvis XIV]

Ah, I get it now. Bit slow on the uptake today.

[Jukka Aho]

Apparently, with a video output (not RF) the DVD player knows whether it's talking to a PAL set or an NTSC set. So some of them adjust their output accordingly. Or maybe all my players simply assume it's an NTSC set, I'm not certain.

Your DVD player likely has a setup menu with a specific selection (menu item) for the output format.

This selection can typically be toggled between PAL/NTSC/AUTO.

If the player is set to NTSC and you pop in a PAL disc, the player will auto-convert from the PAL resolution and refresh rate to the NTSC resolution and refresh rate. (Or vice versa, if we turn the tables.) This conversion happens on the fly... but since PAL and NTSC are so very much different video formats and since quality conversions don’t come cheap, it’s not flawless: motion will probably be a bit jerky or smeary when compared to the original... (If you pay any attention to such details, that is. Most people don’t since they’re not even bothered by their TV being permanently set to the wrong aspect ratio where everyone looks like a 1000-pound DDR-era weightlifter...)

There is no common signaling method or standard (that I know of) which the TV set could employ for telling the DVD player which resolutions or TV/color standards it can actually support. (Over analog video connections, I mean... I think DVI/HDMI might well have something like that.)

Or maybe PAL/NTSC is only relevant over RF.

Depends a bit whether you’re only using “PAL” or “NTSC” for referring to the color part of the signal (which is what those acronyms originally refer to) or also include the typical refresh rates and vertical resolution / scanline structure to those definitions... which is what most ordinary people (and also consumer electronics manufacturers) do...

Anyway, in practice, the PAL/NTSC difference is a relevant thing over all video signals and connection methods: be that RF, composite video (CVBS), s-video (Y/C), component video (YPbPr), or SCART RGB.

Even all-digital connections, such as DVI or HDMI, need to support different resolutions and refresh rates in order to fully support legacy PAL/NTSC video.

But tonight I have watched Finnish and Swedish DVDs on a vanilla America TV set. When Jukka Aho gets back from summer break or wherever he is, he can probably give a better answer.

Well, there you have it. ;)

I also have a Sony DVD/VCR, a something 271-P. It was not able to play Metsolat even though the region code was OK. I interpret this to mean that the Sony cannot convert PAL to NTSC (and therefore that the others DO convert). It puts a region-related error message on the screen even though Metsolat is allowed to play in region 1.

It’s typically the cheap, wacky Chinese (etc.) no-name brands which allow the greatest degree of freedom to the consumer... Big media / consumer electronics corporations (such as Sony et al.) are chronic control freaks and much more finicky about such things.

[AldenG]

Thanks for the follow-up.

Based on that explanation, I imagine that with the player J Honkanen and I are both using, one of those toggled numbers on the numbered grid tells it whether to output PAL or NTSC, then. Maybe someday I'll get ambitious enough to Google around and see if I can find a descriptive key to the grid functions.

I do notice that this does a much better output conversion than my multi-system VCR. But with the DVD player, the top and bottom scan-lines of PAL sources end halfway across the screen. Other than that, there's nothing so far off that I would notice it. The piano theme to Metsolat is noticeably distorted, but I'm guessing (with a bit of surprise) that it's in the source.