21 years old guy marry a 64 woman

[jakub]

come on guys, give him some hope
it's obvious she loves him and he loves her and these 3k is only for the proper arrangement of her flat (bigger bed, etc).
they will marry, she will bring him, they will live together, authorities will believe it's for real.
he might even get a citizenship after 1 year and without Finnish - but only if they will be really happy in their marriage - otherwise no way.
i believe in your love and i believe she also loves you - there is no way she would scam you.
"all we need is love...tam da da da da dam....."

[rinso]

He said he saw her passport, so let's assume she is a real Finn.

But was the passport real?
Scammers are careful to hide their real identity. And he has no way of checking if the passport was real or fake.

[jahasjahas]

he might even get a citizenship after 1 year and without Finnish - but only if they will be really happy in their marriage - otherwise no way.
i believe in your love and i believe she also loves you - there is no way she would scam you.

I've also heard that if a man and a woman love each other very much, a stork will bring them a baby.

It's sad to see so many love sceptics in this thread.

[jakub]

I've also heard that if a man and a woman love each other very much, a stork will bring them a baby.
It's sad to see so many love sceptics in this thread.

In this case the stork might be the only option....

[ajdias]

Drakar, you'vegot plenty of people tell you here that it's not a very good idea to go along this con woman, and while you've accepted that she is not being honest with you, you are so desperate to leave your own country that you prefer to try in faith. But have you done a bit of risk assessment?

What, do you think, are your chances of...

• getting ripped off of your money (you do know that there will be further requests, more bills to pay and increasing demands) and not even making it to Finland?
• making it to Finland and being returned to your country at the door?
• Making it to Finland and being kicked out after the woman gets the divorce? (There are real stories, and yes, real love is involved.)
• being barred from Finland and blacklisted from the EU (you know they share this information among border polices) for fraud attempt?
• Ending up at the mercy of some mob, being exploited and forced to work under threat of physical punishment?
• Making it to Finland, getting RP and spending the rest of your life swiping floors?
• Making it to Finland, getting into an Uni and finding a job within your field?

Most people will tell you that chances are about 80% for the first and 0.1% for the latter, but I am sure you are a bit more optimist. In any case, what are you doing if things don't go as you expect? If you loose all your money and are forced to return home empty handed? Are you preparing for that?

[Zoll]

@ Topic Starter

Boy I want to tell you something that everybody knows who are here in finland. People come to finland from different ways, work permit, student residence permit and family member of finnish citizen (spouse of finnish citizen) are the common ones. Even though these roads to finland are different but TRUTH is people who come from same path like ''spouse of finnish citizen'' are also divided in many different categories. There are spouses of finnish citizens who just directly received decision without any problem, there are who waited more than an year for their straight case, there are who called for interviews for further clarification , there are who got rejection and then appealed and then after waiting for appeal thing got their permit finally. So the thing I wanna tell you is this difference matters ALOT. cuz it puts tension and worry in your life and disturb various of your life activities. So here is the thing, i came here on the basis of marriage too. I had these positive points,

- My wife had house (not flat not apartment. A House house) where she was living alone and i joined her.
- I never called for any interview or clarification.
- I received my residence permit in just 3 months.¨
- We didnt have any problem financially. So waiting for decision and not doing anything job was fully fine with us.

So I enjoyed I think maximum ease in my case, but yet, when i got my permit and i entered into professional life, I faced aloooooooooooooooooooot of difficulties and tensions. no jobs, my university masters degree was not helping me at all cuz of finnish language and finnish language is not easy. I spent sooooooo many days in tension and depression that what will happen next. After so much struggle and kicking, (which lasted for about 4 months after i got my permit) i got job and now I am quite settled BUT yet its not like what i thought. slowly its gettin better. and even now after that much though time, many people say to me that i am lucky that everything figured out so quickly

So the thing is, IF i am lucky and I enjoyed maximum ease in getting settled and getting my residence permit and YET i was been through alot then WHAT will be the pain and trouble of that person who waited for his decision for year long or longer, and what will be the pain of that person who once rejected after waiting for one year and then appealed and waited another year in limbo and then get decision!!!!!!!!! have you ever thought about that

So my friend you are not even in that zone where people wait too much and appeal etc etc. you are far far far down from them even so just imagine what kinda situation you will face when you will be here!
All I wanna say is things are not that easy. you think you just will come and open a net shop and everything will be worked out. its not like that. Please try to listen to people and try to understand. Why dont you keep your money saved and after earning your college degree (like you said you are studying) struggle to be eligible for masters degree and then come as a student through proper channel and then struggle for your fate!!!!

Thats all i wanna say. thats it. hope you will understand

[Flossy1978]

This guy is just as much a scam artist as the old hag he is wanting to marry. There's nothing honest about him wanting to come to Finland.

I hope they both get caught.

[Upphew]

So the thing is, IF i am lucky and I enjoyed maximum ease in getting settled and getting my residence permit and YET i was been through alot then WHAT will be the pain and trouble of that person who waited for his decision for year long or longer, and what will be the pain of that person who once rejected after waiting for one year and then appealed and waited another year in limbo and then get decision!!!!!!!!! have you ever thought about that

Guess what? I was about to exclaim how fast you got your RP and job

This guy is just as much a scam artist as the old hag he is wanting to marry. There's nothing honest about him wanting to come to Finland.

They seem to make fine couple. And mighty good ammo for Hakkarainen & co.

[Zoll]

Guess what? I was about to exclaim how fast you got your RP and job

I didnt get that point. are you not believing me and making fun out of me or you think same that for me it was very quick. cuz what i said was, that it was alot of trouble for me even though i had good education and a reasonable long work experience (but it was not in EU so it didnt benefit me) but hardly i get work and salary was not what I expected. so i thought that i had hard time and had a bad luck in getting settled. But when i told all that to many immigrant people whom i know, they were surprised and said that i am very lucky that everything went so easily and quickly. so by that, i made idea that for sure there are alot of people who get RP after long waiting and some who got after once rejected and for those, time must would have been alot alot alot alot harder than me.

[Pursuivant]

Come on now, would you all be so worried, if it was some 21-year old girl wanting to marry a 64-year old man?

[Upphew]

Come on now, would you all be so worried, if it was some 21-year old girl wanting to marry a 64-year old man?

Would the 64 year old man ask for money too?

[Rip]

Come on now, would you all be so worried, if it was some 21-year old girl wanting to marry a 64-year old man?

Would the 64 year old man ask for money too?

Even if he did, we would not see post like this:

That is obvious: All she is interested in is his money.

(emphasis added - and I do not know if we can take it for granted even in this case)

[Adrian42]

Come on now, would you all be so worried, if it was some 21-year old girl wanting to marry a 64-year old man?

Would the 64 year old man ask for money too?

Even if he did, we would not see post like this:

That is obvious: All she is interested in is his money.

(emphasis added - and I do not know if we can take it for granted even in this case)

You are wrong, I would have written that no matter what the genders and ages involved are.

What you omit is that I wrote that in response to:

I also wonder why she asked money from him ?

After that $3000 request we can definitely take it for granted that what she is interested in is to extract the money from that boy.

[Rip]

After that $3000 request we can definitely take it for granted that what she is interested in is to extract the money from that boy.

Of course, but being interested in money does not necessarily imply you are only interested in money. There are after all other means of payment as well.

[Upphew]

After that $3000 request we can definitely take it for granted that what she is interested in is to extract the money from that boy.

Of course, but being interested in money does not necessarily imply you are only interested in money. There are after all other means of payment as well.

And 64 year old should know them all!