Realistic cost of living in Tampere for exchange student

[mrshourula]

Goddammit you know more on your ancestors than me, thats good.
Only thing i know my great grandfather lived in Turku, that was bad enough to stop investigating
Good to hear that youre "sinut" with your surname like im with mine, and as you probably noticed there was no intention to insult

No offense taken at all. I've always loved my husband's family name. We'll see if my daughter suffers at all from its humorous translation

My husband's family didn't really know of their family history outside of the Nivala branch until I happened upon a Web site for the Hoffren Family Society and discovered they'd published a family history book. We haven't translated the part that explains how/why Hourula morphed into Hoffren.

[onkko]

Well houria is old word, hourailla is more common nowadays (but not so common as everyone uses it). Probably young students wont find out (im only 31 but im from lapland where older words are used)

Edit.

Goddammit im jealous, i would like to had oppoturnity like she has now. This is money put on right cause, your money and goverment money.
I hope she enjoys his time in finland

[Hank W.]

I hope she enjoys his time in finland

älä ny houri

[onkko]

I hope she enjoys his time in finland

älä ny houri

Goddammit, its difficult to use he/she. grrr for those who invented that

[Hank W.]

Probably young students wont find out

Well she can whack them without abandon, after all...

XXXII. Lucu. Taposta joca tapahtu hourulda.

1.§. Jos houru tappa jongun; nijn tehkön sackoa ne, jotca händä wartioitzeman piti, caxikymmendä talaria, asianomaiselle yxinäns.

So if 1 daler thats 28g of silver she gets off quite easy

[onkko]

Thats even better than sika toisen pellossa

[Hank W.]

Best ones in *current* law though is:

Jos joku sanoo nimensä tahi säätynsä muuksi, kuin se on, ja jos toinen siten aviosopimukseen petetään; taikka jos joku toisen viettelee aviosopimukseen siten, että salaa laillisen avioliitonesteen taikka seikan, joka voi saattaa avioliiton purkautumaan; rangaistakoon vankeudella korkeintaan yhdeksi vuodeksi taikka sakolla.

and

Joka viettelee kahdeksaatoista vuotta nuoremman nauttimaan päihdyttävää juomaa, niin että tämä siitä juopuu, rangaistakoon [enintään kahdensadan markan] sakolla.


So if I get some 17-year old chick drunk, its not bad, but if I tell her I'm the sheik of arabee thats really bad...

[onkko]

Those old laws are hilarious

[Hank W.]

We haven't translated the part that explains how/why Hourula morphed into Hoffren.

It sounds fancy & foreign. Better people from Sweden. The same way why then these Hoffrens changed the name back to Hovinen or Haapanen when the nationalism knee-jerked back and anyone without a Finnish name was seen as unpatriotic.
I got Holmsten and Saarikivi in my family.... Same thing as Jesus Islapiedra moves to USA and he is Jesse Islestone in the next census

[mrshourula]

Well houria is old word, hourailla is more common nowadays (but not so common as everyone uses it). Probably young students wont find out (im only 31 but im from lapland where older words are used)
Edit.
Goddammit im jealous, i would like to had oppoturnity like she has now. This is money put on right cause, your money and goverment money.
I hope she enjoys his time in finland

That's so kind of you. Since she was quite young we have always talked about her going to Finland but when she got her Finnish citizenship in 2005 she became very intent on doing more than spending a few weeks during summer vacation. The plan came together three years ago when she found a university where she could study Finnish language and it had an exchange program with Tampere.

Quite honestly, with the weak dollar I'm not sure we could have pulled this off financially if we were paying tuition and housing (the exchange agreement offers a housing scholarship). We are very aware that this is not a "free" year of college for her and we are very indebted to the taxpayers of Finland.

How long have you lived in Finland?

[Hank W.]

How long have you lived in Finland?

The question is how long has he lived "down south" here in the tropics

[mrshourula]

We haven't translated the part that explains how/why Hourula morphed into Hoffren.

It sounds fancy & foreign. Better people from Sweden. The same way why then these Hoffrens changed the name back to Hovinen or Haapanen when the nationalism knee-jerked back and anyone without a Finnish name was seen as unpatriotic.
I got Holmsten and Saarikivi in my family.... Same thing as Jesus Islapiedra moves to USA and he is Jesse Islestone in the next census

Oh, I thought maybe with the back and forth between Sweden and Russia and all, people had to change names to match current occupier.

[Hank W.]

Well, naming fashions also depended on education. So someone been to university Latinized or Added some Greek to the surname to show off a bit of civilization. Theres now some census book of Savo from the 1500's on the net. The surnames are amazingly such you can find even in modern days.

[onkko]

How long have you lived in Finland?

27 years. I lived in Sweden 4 years when i were a child

[mrshourula]

I've reading over the comments in this thread and we touched on this but I'm still not sure what is best way:

Daughter is in Finland (since Monday; dealing with jet lag and inability to figure out where to find food on her own), has opened bank account (Nordea) and now we need to put some euro's in the Nordea account to pay the student union fee and the like. Is it better to do a wire transfer from US account to Nordea account or take out cash via ATM and go into the bank and make deposit.

She and I have different opinions about this and I'm looking for a second opinion, so to speak.