Where can I get Finnish flashcards?

[AldenG]

I'm close to having material ready for you, Cloudberry. Hopefully it'll just be a few more days before I can give it to you.

I know it's not quick to make friends after moving, but I'm wondering do you and your husband have a Finnish acquaintance who could spend at least some time with the two of you on it, chaperoning and interacting a bit? I think I mentioned above that I was late on picking up that he's not Finnish, either (or not a Finnish-speaker, at least). A helper is not an absolute requirement, but it's easier to get each new topic off on the right foot with one. If you don't have one, maybe I'll put some more detail into the examples.

[tuulen]

...That's a period I really like listening to though I haven't played much in it for a long time...

A discussion of the Baroque necessarily involves a discussion of two systems of tuning, Just Intonation and Equal Temperament. What is known of Western music began at some time in the 12th century, under the supervision of the Roman Catholic Church, and from that time and through the mid-18th century all music was performed while using Just Intonation. Just Intonation is quite naturally acoustically sweet, delightfully good! However, due to the acoustical physics involved, the available range of musical keys is strictly limited, where wandering any more than a key or two away from the home key begins to produce "sour" tones. Naturally, musicians wanted to break through such a limit, and so for the next few hundred years an unknown number of musicians tried everything, including all sorts of tuning variations, in order to have unlimited key modulation. Finally, however, no less than the famous Johann Sebastian Bach brought the tuning into order, to achieve unlimited key modulation, and the name of that tuning is Equal Temperament. Bach's famous publication was The Well Tempered Klavier, or The Well Tempered Piano. Yes, a "properly" tuned piano is tuned to Bach's Equal Temperament. And, as the Classical era was developed following the Baroque era, it is entirely accurate to say that the Classical era could not have been developed without Equal Temperament. Indeed, although Just Intonation continues to survive, and thrive, especially in vocal works and in the folk music of many nations, the Baroque era was the last major Western Art Music era to use Just Intonation.

Although nearly all of my playing is done with Just Intonation, as a flautist I go through a daily warm-up with both scales, including an honest "lap" around the circle of fifths, which is the home of Equal Temperament, before going on to studies in, and playing with, Just Intonation.

A piano can be tuned to Just Intonation, too, especially to favor one particular musical key, but of course that will severely limit the modulation of keys, which is exactly the trouble those centuries of early musicians encountered.

The Finns have an ancient stringed instrument which is quite flexible in its tuning, the kantele, and the kantele appears to have originally been developed to play with Just Intonation, but also appears to have Equal Temperament capability, too.

BTW, I am a cello fan, too, not that I can play one, but some of my favorite pieces were originally written for cello.

Now, has this thread been completely hijacked, or what? :-D

[AldenG]

Lao Tzu says the wise man learns more from the thread-hijacks in his life than from the original subjects. I used to tune pianos in high school, so I can appreciate your enthusiasm for the subject.

[Pursuivant]

I do not think I need a two-barrel shotgun to deal with you two. I'll just give you two a line and hooks and forget you into the middle of the ice... and you can f* off to Canada....

... after being nutritional

[tuulen]

I do not think I need a two-barrel shotgun to deal with you two. I'll just give you two a line and hooks and forget you into the middle of the ice... and you can f* off to Canada.

Canada?

The Baroque comes from Europe. Yes, I have spent years of my life studying an older form of European music.

[Pursuivant]

[tuulen]

It has been said many times over many years that there appears to be a natural correlation between the study of mathematics and the study of music, and in my own experience I have seen that people involved with any of the sciences often do have an interest in music, and are themselves much more likely to play a musical instrument than to play a physically demanding sport such as football.

Look at Finland, which is not only a technologically advanced society, but which also has one of the biggest music institutions in all of Europe, Sibelius Academy, http://www.siba.fi/en/

And, speaking of the harp, and of Baroque music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zh1MbQV ... re=related

[Cloudberry]

I'm close to having material ready for you, Cloudberry. Hopefully it'll just be a few more days before I can give it to you.

I know it's not quick to make friends after moving, but I'm wondering do you and your husband have a Finnish acquaintance who could spend at least some time with the two of you on it, chaperoning and interacting a bit? I think I mentioned above that I was late on picking up that he's not Finnish, either (or not a Finnish-speaker, at least). A helper is not an absolute requirement, but it's easier to get each new topic off on the right foot with one. If you don't have one, maybe I'll put some more detail into the examples.

Hi AldenG, no we don't really have access to a Finnish person to help us but there are a few of us that missed out on Finnish language classes and think that rather than wasting time we could meet once or twice a week as a Finnish study group. Maybe we can even find a Finnish language teaching student that wants to gain some practical experience. For now though we are just trying to learn what we can with whatever resources we can find. I've even resorted to buying childrens picture books to get some simple vocab

[Upphew]

Hi AldenG, no we don't really have access to a Finnish person to help us but there are a few of us that missed out on Finnish language classes and think that rather than wasting time we could meet once or twice a week as a Finnish study group. Maybe we can even find a Finnish language teaching student that wants to gain some practical experience. For now though we are just trying to learn what we can with whatever resources we can find. I've even resorted to buying childrens picture books to get some simple vocab

I'd guess that someone who can pronounce things right(ish) would suffice. No need for overly educated person, although you might be good material for school project too

[Rob A.]

....although you might be good material for school project too

Yes .....a kind of case study in anthropology.....

Miten opettaa "maailman vaikeimmasta kielesta" alkeellisiin ulkomaalaisiin .....

[Cloudberry]

Yes I'm sure we'll make an excellent school project

Actually, once we get enough students we would be able to pay to have our own teacher. If anyone is interested in joining our Finnish language study group (beginner level) please PM me. So far there are 3 of us and we plan to meet in one of the meeting rooms at the library once or twice a week in the city centre (no teacher just a study group where we share resources and help each other learn). Or if there is someone reading this who would like to be our teacher please also PM me.

[onkko]

....although you might be good material for school project too

Yes .....a kind of case study in anthropology.....

Miten opettaa "maailman vaikeimmasta kielesta" alkeellisiin ulkomaalaisiin .....

How to teach from most difficult language to primitive foreigners
Yep you need more practise

[Rob A.]

....although you might be good material for school project too

Yes .....a kind of case study in anthropology.....

Miten opettaa "maailman vaikeimmasta kielesta" alkeellisiin ulkomaalaisiin .....

How to teach from most difficult language to primitive foreigners
Yep you need more practise

Yeah, I know.... I think this is probably the better way to say it:

Miten opettaa "maailman vaikeinta kieltä" alkeellisille ulkomaalaisille.......

[EP]

Yeah, I know.... I think this is probably the better way to say it:

Miten opettaa "maailman vaikeinta kieltä" alkeellisille ulkomaalaisille.......

Not the better way – the only way.

[Pursuivant]

Oppivat tai itkevät ja oppivat. Lyörään raipalla perseheelle, jos ei oppi maista. Jotta oppivat.