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nikskate
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by nikskate » Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:17 pm
No_doo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:46 am
Hello everyone
I am just wondering if Migri keeps counting the trips outside Finland that lasts for a week or two, I mean short trips less than a month. From my understanding, I thought it is okay as long as they’re a short trips, but I noticed in the earlier comments that people mentioned that Migri calculates trips abroad. Does it impact if you travel every now and then but for short trips?
Here is what they say on their Website;
https://migri.fi/en/how-to-calculate-th ... -residence
I wrote down on my online application all the trips that I remember going during the entire time I lived in Finland. All trips with a passport stamp are accounted for but because I travel a lot (mostly inside of EU), I think I may have missed some. Most of my trips ranges from 5 days to a month. During the interview I was asked if I travel a lot and I just said that I do but my trips are less than a month. The officer didn't ask me to clarify any more so I guess that was enough explanation.
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No_doo
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by No_doo » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:55 pm
nikskate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:17 pm
No_doo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:46 am
Hello everyone
I am just wondering if Migri keeps counting the trips outside Finland that lasts for a week or two, I mean short trips less than a month. From my understanding, I thought it is okay as long as they’re a short trips, but I noticed in the earlier comments that people mentioned that Migri calculates trips abroad. Does it impact if you travel every now and then but for short trips?
Here is what they say on their Website;
https://migri.fi/en/how-to-calculate-th ... -residence
I wrote down on my online application all the trips that I remember going during the entire time I lived in Finland. All trips with a passport stamp are accounted for but because I travel a lot (mostly inside of EU), I think I may have missed some. Most of my trips ranges from 5 days to a month. During the interview I was asked if I travel a lot and I just said that I do but my trips are less than a month. The officer didn't ask me to clarify any more so I guess that was enough explanation.
Thanks for the answer. I am just wondering if they keep calculating this short trips and exclude them from the residence time.
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browndude
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by browndude » Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:32 pm
nikskate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:10 pm
browndude wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:47 am
RandomDude wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:58 am
Did you have anyone with a Finnish passport to collect your passport with you? Because in my case, I was told that I can only pick-up the passport at the police station with my home country passport as my identification or give an authorization to someone with a Finnish passport to pick-up my passport to any R-kiosk of my choice.
Yes, unless you already have a Finnish ID/passport (or one that expired less than a year before), you have to write a valtakirja for some who has a Finnish ID/passport to pick it up.
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DetectiveCat
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by DetectiveCat » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
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Auringon_kukka
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by Auringon_kukka » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:38 am
DetectiveCat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
I applied a couple of months in advance of the four-year residence period (have Finnish spouse). It didn't seem to be a problem. The agent at migri went over my application, asked me a few questions and added my application to the processing queue.
Still stage one, 10 months in...
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DetectiveCat
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by DetectiveCat » Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:40 am
I applied a couple of months in advance of the four-year residence period (have Finnish spouse). It didn't seem to be a problem. The agent at migri went over my application, asked me a few questions and added my application to the processing queue.
Still stage one, 10 months in...
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Thank you! Worth a try then.
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Finn2023
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by Finn2023 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:17 pm
DetectiveCat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
Yes, in my case (Non EU):
Came in Finland as a student in April 2018 (B Permit)
A permit (June 2019 to June 2023)
Applied Citizenship (Oct 2022)
Citizenship received April 2023
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No_doo
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by No_doo » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:35 pm
Auringon_kukka wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:38 am
DetectiveCat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
I applied a couple of months in advance of the four-year residence period (have Finnish spouse). It didn't seem to be a problem. The agent at migri went over my application, asked me a few questions and added my application to the processing queue.
Still stage one, 10 months in...
The same for me here but I am on a work residence permit. I was living in total for 5 years in Finland including student residence permit B. It didn’t seem a problem while applying.
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nikskate
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by nikskate » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:34 pm
DetectiveCat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
You could try but it can be a risk. For example my citizenship was approved in 2.5 months. If I had been living in Finland for less than 5 years at that time then the decision could have been negative. I would say 2 months is the safest but we do not know how fast (or slow) the process can be now.
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Maaria
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by Maaria » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:39 pm
nikskate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:34 pm
DetectiveCat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
You could try but it can be a risk. For example my citizenship was approved in 2.5 months. If I had been living in Finland for less than 5 years at that time then the decision could have been negative. I would say 2 months is the safest but we do not know how fast (or slow) the process can be now.
It's possible to apply after 4 years if one scores intermediate level in YKI test, No?
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37yqp8098y5
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by 37yqp8098y5 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:21 am
mimosuomi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:04 pm
I'm only wondering how the market toilets will smell after all the foreign cleaning workers will leave the country cz they can't afford the 40k a year, or the undelivered Helsingin sanomat after midnight, or the home cleaning services...
Always amusing to read the dumb retorts to these changes. Oh no what ever will I do that all the Wolt delivery men will leave Finland!? Go I say. We were doing better without you.
Schmania wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:24 pm
You clearly didn’t have enough experience. I am a high skilled worker, my hiring process in Rovio took 4 months because of their internal HR processes.
That is a ridiculous amount of time to audition for a crap company. It's your own fault for even letting them take so long. If a company can't get off their ass to determine my fitness and skills for a job within 2-3 weeks I drop them. And I likely make more than you do at Rovio. You clearly need to fix a few things about how you apply for jobs.
sealgat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:06 pm
40k? I work in university and have around 36k. Many people are international researchers with children and they support their family on this salary. I think nurses (and this job is important) get even less.
You're still technically a student. You're lucky you even get that much.
kalaizanala wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:00 pm
I agree with dear friend Schmania. My professional occupation and skills are really demanded in Finland, but I was able to be officially employed in about 5 months after my graduation. All because the fact that I graduated in May and when I started to look for a job most of companies had summer holidays. But starting from September I had six job interview invitations. Three months is really nothing for finding a job in Finland. I would say that even 6 months is not enough.
You and the other guy clearly have no idea how to navigate the job market here. Nor do you know how to assert yourselves during the hiring process either. Anyone who can't even do this doesn't belong here and is likely missing the social and problem solving skills to even integrate into Finland.
The average Somali and Iraqi costs Finland €12,000 per person, per year.
https://julkaisut.valtioneuvosto.fi/handle/10024/160396
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37yqp8098y5
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by 37yqp8098y5 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:39 am
fiksumuksu69 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:27 pm
This is such a lovely feature
Yes filter out the sanity from the forum and leave only complaining and useless whining about how everything sucks. But you're still going to live here anyway.
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:21 am
Ukrainian men age 18 to 60 are currently prisoners in their country, not allowed to leave and might at any time be forced to fight in the war.
All Finnish men age 18 to 60 are also part of the reserve for wartime.
Lmao what a load of bull. You'd say the same thing if we were at war huh? and all the men here wanted to leave and not die and not protect you? I highly doubt it. The duplicity of a woman everyone! These men are cowards plain and simple. They have a duty to follow their laws and constitution like their fathers did and their fathers before them.
No_doo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:55 pm
I am just wondering if they keep calculating this short trips and exclude them from the residence time.
Short trips under 1 month shouldn't matter at all. Especially within Schengen as you have freedom of movement.
That said, I haven't notified of a single trip since applying now 18 months ago. There's no point. I travel on average 30 times a year. By now I think I've probably taken 50 flights since I applied. I'm not about to notify these guys every single time I get on a plane. I wouldn't even tell my parents that often...
The average Somali and Iraqi costs Finland €12,000 per person, per year.
https://julkaisut.valtioneuvosto.fi/handle/10024/160396
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Auringon_kukka
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by Auringon_kukka » Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:43 am
Maaria wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:39 pm
nikskate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:34 pm
DetectiveCat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:01 pm
Hello. Sorry if the question was already asked many times, but can anybody tell if it's possible to apply for the citizenship 2-3 months before 5 years of residence? Because of long waiting for the decision anyway...
You could try but it can be a risk. For example my citizenship was approved in 2.5 months. If I had been living in Finland for less than 5 years at that time then the decision could have been negative. I would say 2 months is the safest but we do not know how fast (or slow) the process can be now.
It's possible to apply after 4 years if one scores intermediate level in YKI test, No?
It's all explained here:
https://migri.fi/en/period-of-residence.
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magamarcha
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by magamarcha » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:25 am
Hello all,
I applied in Dec 2021, I checked my identity in Feb 2022 and my queue number is 18XX. I noticed that my application passed to "step 2" at the end of last year but since then nothing! I haven't gotten any reply from them
Have anyone encountered the same situation? I would like to ask Migri for some updates via email, but I can't find the email address or the place in the web portal to do it.
Thanks in advance for any help

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FinlandGirl
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by FinlandGirl » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:27 am
37yqp8098y5 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:39 am
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:21 am
Ukrainian men age 18 to 60 are currently prisoners in their country, not allowed to leave and might at any time be forced to fight in the war.
All Finnish men age 18 to 60 are also part of the reserve for wartime.
Lmao what a load of bull. You'd say the same thing if we were at war huh? and all the men here wanted to leave and not die and not protect you? I highly doubt it. The duplicity of a woman everyone! These men are cowards plain and simple. They have a duty to follow their laws and constitution like their fathers did and their fathers before them.
Russian-Finnish dual citizens also have a duty to follow their laws and constitution and protect the women in Russia by fighting and dying in the next war against Finland like their fathers did and their fathers before them.
This duty of dual citizens to fight on both sides of a war is a problem.