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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by mCowboy » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:38 pm

raskarhu wrote:Hei

My woman is a Finn living in Brussels, Belgium. She has studied here. She works in Belgium, she pays taxes. I am very happy for her. It's quite sad to see that some Finns don't want to give foreign students the same opportunities. I think that, as a whole, you'll never be able to calculate what the actual benefit or loss is to your society when inviting foreigners to come over to your country to study there...or to just live there...or ...

And singling out foreigners just for an ID check? Quite a discriminating practice if you ask me... But then again in Finland this is very easy: you only have some 2 to 3 percent of foreigners (and most of them are not even Black or Brown, because that seems to be the decisive element ...). If the police were to check the ID of foreigners in Brussels, they would do overtime every day!!! :lol:

Ever thought about white muslims?

Ever thought about checking the ID of American citizens? They are part of a nation that committed one of the greatest crimes in humanity of the last years. But no! Of course not, Americans are white defenders of our so civilized western Hemisphere.

I think there are bigger problems in Finland then some illegal aliens and some foreign students coming over to the nice Suomi.

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Dunno if this was reply to me, but please read the whole thread before making these kinda shots in the dark with random comments.


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Post by hackoff » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:55 pm

raskarhu wrote:
They are part of a nation that committed one of the greatest crimes in humanity of the last years. But no! Of course not, Americans are white defenders of our so civilized western Hemisphere.
definitely yes they did ,do and they keep doing

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Post by antstar » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:06 pm

hackoff wrote:
raskarhu wrote:
They are part of a nation that committed one of the greatest crimes in humanity of the last years. But no! Of course not, Americans are white defenders of our so civilized western Hemisphere.
definitely yes they did ,do and they keep doing

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Post by hackoff » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:07 pm

never forced anybody to adopt it

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Post by mCowboy » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:44 pm

hackoff wrote:
raskarhu wrote:
They are part of a nation that committed one of the greatest crimes in humanity of the last years. But no! Of course not, Americans are white defenders of our so civilized western Hemisphere.
definitely yes they did ,do and they keep doing
and this is coming from someone who's too shamed to tell us where he's from... :roll:
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Post by hackoff » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:48 pm

mCowboy wrote:
hackoff wrote:
raskarhu wrote:
They are part of a nation that committed one of the greatest crimes in humanity of the last years. But no! Of course not, Americans are white defenders of our so civilized western Hemisphere.
definitely yes they did ,do and they keep doing
and this is coming from someone who's too shamed to tell us where he's from... :roll:
si t´es assez intelligent tu le sauras , mais bon je crois que j´ai oublie que vous etes ` `monophone`

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Post by Hank W. » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:07 pm

oh-la la, le parapluie de ma tante s'est ouvert dans votre cule
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by mCowboy » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:01 am

hackoff wrote:
si t´es assez intelligent tu le sauras , mais bon je crois que j´ai oublie que vous etes ` `monophone`
oh, merde... vous avez honte encore de dire d'où vous êtes... :roll:
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Post by raamv » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:53 am

Okie
juste un autre étudiant lâche
Lets get back to the topic..Who now actually has the real say as to what the police can or cannot do?
Parliament ?
The Police powers say that they already have that power..so why not enforce them to do ID checks..
If they have the responsibility and authority to do it, then so be it!! whats wrong with just showing your ID..no matter who is asked for.
( not the question of what is being done..But the Police are trained to at least identify suspicious looking people etc..so whats wrong with that? if it eliminates a lot of criminal elements)
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Post by Hank W. » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:59 am

Yes, the question is how they decide who to check... smells like curry, ID please! The ombudsman report for parliament I posted somewhere expresses concern of "inappropriate" reasons like skin color. ;)
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Post by Tiwaz » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:17 am

raskarhu wrote: And singling out foreigners just for an ID check? Quite a discriminating practice if you ask me... But then again in Finland this is very easy: you only have some 2 to 3 percent of foreigners (and most of them are not even Black or Brown, because that seems to be the decisive element ...). If the police were to check the ID of foreigners in Brussels, they would do overtime every day!!! :lol:
Apparently you and Debo mistake simple logic...

We have group which represents X amount of population. However, they, for one reason or another, are responsible for 3X of crimes.

It means that when you check out this group, you are far more likely to find criminal activity and be able to take proper action than if you check some other group.

Whenever any single group starts to be responsible for crimes over what is their percentage of population, police not only should but MUST crack down on this group of people to clean it up. If you want to find an ant, your best bet is to go to nest where they represent largest proportion from animals.

Same with criminals. If group is disproportionally criminal (and illegal alien is criminal)... You give it disproportional attention to reduce it.

Same reason why instead of raiding "Humppaveikot ry" or other similar organisations clubhouse police goes and kicks in door of Bandidos or Hell's Angels.
Ever thought about white muslims?
Yeah, they are trying to start islamic party in Finland
Ever thought about checking the ID of American citizens? They are part of a nation that committed one of the greatest crimes in humanity of the last years. But no! Of course not, Americans are white defenders of our so civilized western Hemisphere.
You presume too much of finnish love towards americans (or russians). Finland has this thing called "Herraviha". Ask your wife what it is and how it is manifested.
I think there are bigger problems in Finland then some illegal aliens and some foreign students coming over to the nice Suomi.
Foreign students, welcome.
Illegal (thus by default criminal) aliens, no welcome.

If Finland has bigger issues, it is no excuse to let small issues lay and grow bigger. Cut them off when they are growing and you do not have several big issues to deal with in future.

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Post by Hank W. » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:29 am

Tiwaz wrote: Finland has this thing called "Herraviha". Ask your wife what it is and how it is manifested.
Well, its evident in the EU-discussion. Some "overseas power" is making rules, so the instinct is to oppose any "given above" rules just out of the principle. Especially if its some foreigner (them fat, stupid, rich, don't know anything of hardships of life, privileged peoples)... Then you go to the boondocks, some "Helsinki power" is making rules, so the instinct is to oppose any "given above" rules just out of the principle. Especially if its some Helsinkian (them fat, stupid, rich, don't know anything of hardships of life, privileged peoples)... ;)
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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by Tiwaz » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:36 am

Hey, it's ages old proud tradition to want to hurt person trying to tell you what to do.

Why change now...

I'm definitely voting for Lalli to be considered "Greatest Finn in History".

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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by hackoff » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:10 am

smeels like google translating pffff
is it that important to know where i come from ?

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Re: Why foreigners are so often a topic in the news

Post by hackoff » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:14 am

Tiwaz wrote:
raskarhu wrote:
Ever thought about white muslims?
Yeah, they are trying to start islamic party in Finland
they are finns living in finalnd , have the right to do it !


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