Applying for Citizenship 2024

[fingol]

I have talked with two different persons, who waited 30 months now and still the first stage... It gets scarier.

[jonathan_09]

I have talked with two different persons, who waited 30 months now and still the first stage... It gets scarier.

I think if the case prolongs to this extent. the persons can bring the case to the administrative court.
The applicant has paid 460 EUR for his application to be processed within the maximum time Migri has set.
so making you wait 30 months is clear a violation of the terms of the payment.

[jonathan_09]

I have talked with two different persons, who waited 30 months now and still the first stage... It gets scarier.

I think if the case prolongs to this extent. the persons can bring the case to the administrative court.
The applicant has paid 460 EUR for his application to be processed within the maximum time Migri has set.
so making you wait 30 months is clear a violation of the terms of the payment.

Well, there is no maximum time set in law. Migri provided time ranges are just estimates based on last 3 months' statistics. Those are expected processing time, not a promise.

Yes but if the application prolongs to very long extent there should be a grounds to file a court case. And it happened many times with applicants concerning different types of residence permits and in some cases the court ruled in favor of the applicant.
The applicant has paid 460 EUR for his application to be processed (Doesn't matter if the decision is positive or negative). 30 months waiting time is totally unreasonable. and can be considered the migri didn't fulfil its obligation to process the application.
if they can make an applicant wait 30 months. it's possible that they can make other applicants wait 89 months in the future.

[jonathan_09]

A friend of mine who works at Migri, told me that if a citizenship application stays in stage 2 without asking for additional information and the applicant has ( passport, valid residence permit, and his identity is checked ) then the reason for putting the application on hold could be most probably one of these reasons:

1- Migri wants to check the travel history of the applicant based on border guards data. They send a request to the border guards and they wait the response. This process could take several days or weeks. This happens usually when Migri suspects that the applicant didn’t report all his travel history.
2- Migri is waiting another clarification from third party about the applicant ( in most cases something from the applicant’s home country )

[Auringon_kukka]

A friend of mine who works at Migri, told me that if a citizenship application stays in stage 2 without asking for additional information and the applicant has ( passport, valid residence permit, and his identity is checked ) then the reason for putting the application on hold could be most probably one of these reasons:

1- Migri wants to check the travel history of the applicant based on border guards data. They send a request to the border guards and they wait the response. This process could take several days or weeks. This happens usually when Migri suspects that the applicant didn’t report all his travel history.
2- Migri is waiting another clarification from third party about the applicant ( in most cases something from the applicant’s home country )

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

[TUserFin]

I have talked with two different persons, who waited 30 months now and still the first stage... It gets scarier.

Are they refugees or from countires on the list ?etc

[jonathan_09]

I have talked with two different persons, who waited 30 months now and still the first stage... It gets scarier.

Are they refugees or from countires on the list ?etc

As far as I know when it comes to stage 1. there is no difference between refugee citizenship application and ordinary citizenship application.
The difference start from stage 2, refugee applications can be pending for up to 8 months in this stage. because establishing or checking the identity is a complicated process. this is why refugee applications usually take longer.

[Ruskea]

I and my wife applied at the end of March. We started with 9xxx and since then the queue number went diwn only by 100. Digging the data just_passing_by publishes, I noticed ppl in the queue with 86xx as initial number are moving much faster, 300 in a month! However ppl in the queue with 9xxx as initial number are moving really slow! Any idea why this is happening?

[Aasinkinttu]

Update/info

Nearly 5 months in my waiting time. Queue hovering between low 6600's and high 6500's. Got a queue of around 8500 in second week of December.

About 1/3 of the way in the progression bar.

Diary in the mid/high 15000's

Application Decision
Submitted
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[Maaria]

I and my wife applied at the end of March. We started with 9xxx and since then the queue number went diwn only by 100. Digging the data just_passing_by publishes, I noticed ppl in the queue with 86xx as initial number are moving much faster, 300 in a month! However ppl in the queue with 9xxx as initial number are moving really slow! Any idea why this is happening?

So 8xxx and 9xxx are different queue?

[Underscore]

I and my wife applied at the end of March. We started with 9xxx and since then the queue number went diwn only by 100. Digging the data just_passing_by publishes, I noticed ppl in the queue with 86xx as initial number are moving much faster, 300 in a month! However ppl in the queue with 9xxx as initial number are moving really slow! Any idea why this is happening?

[sammyghyft]

I think we applied a week apart. I applied on the 4th of December and went for biometric in Oulu on the 5th of December. And my queue number is about 6500 now. Started at 8500 too.
Update/info

Nearly 5 months in my waiting time. Queue hovering between low 6600's and high 6500's. Got a queue of around 8500 in second week of December.

About 1/3 of the way in the progression bar.

Diary in the mid/high 15000's

Application Decision
Submitted
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[Ruskea]

I and my wife applied at the end of March. We started with 9xxx and since then the queue number went diwn only by 100. Digging the data just_passing_by publishes, I noticed ppl in the queue with 86xx as initial number are moving much faster, 300 in a month! However ppl in the queue with 9xxx as initial number are moving really slow! Any idea why this is happening?

So 8xxx and 9xxx are different queue?

They are. But I don’t know what is the difference though, who ends up in what!

[kunglao]

Hello, any update on your case buddy?
I'm still waiting (In Process stage).

Still no update. Exactly 2 weeks have passed since we moved to In Progress. I'll start panicking after next week Friday

Well, still nothing.

Received an email "The processing of your application is ongoing." Is exactly 4 weeks after moving to In Progress.

[juhapekkonen]

The "queue" has only moved 3-5 numbers this week, do you guys confirm? Seems like the wonderful summer break is here already and now nothing will move at all. Waiting since 2022 btw