Greece is in SEPA. Bank transfers can't cost more between banks in SEPA than domestic transfers. So why would one use third party that takes a cut?jaatelo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:38 amFor moving money from Greece to Finland, I recommend using this service.Hjördis_28 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:03 pmThe whole idea is to settle in Finland and start the job hunt/continue with language courses. It's just that I got kinda lost with the processes, as in when to register the right of residence and how (considering my previous comment on bank statements), if KELA comes next etc. Sounds quite logical to me for KELA to act like that when bank account activities concern banks other than Finnish ones.
Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
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Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.
Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.
Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
This is why Finland is a bad country to live in. People are inherently disrespectful and assume they know better than you. This is your first hand example right here.FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:04 amDon't listen to all the nonsense an old troll in this forum with a new account is writing.
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
SEPA schemes are only used for euro-denominated payments. A US dollar account in Greece would then cause delays.
Romania, Switzerland and United Kingdom etc don't have SEPA for local currencies because local bank accounts are not euro accounts by default. To use SEPA is these countries, you have to open a euro account.
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
Indeed. That is why I wondered your recommendation to use 3rd party transfer service.
http://google.com http://translate.google.com http://urbandictionary.com
Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
It's not rubbish. Your claims are rubbish. You want to invite a Greek citizen into your country so you can tax their inheritance and assets. I am here to give neutral advice.
Note to other users:
DO NOT reveal your real name to FinlandGirl, she is ex-migri or a Government Agent.
Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
And you want Greek to use 3rd party money transfer company that costs money. Pot, Kettle.
http://google.com http://translate.google.com http://urbandictionary.com
Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.
Visa is for visiting, Residence Permit for residing.
Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
My morning coffee also costs money but I drink it because it tastes good.
3rd party money transfers with wise.com are cheap and their app is super user friendly and fun.
It also takes care of a situation where source account is outside of sepa zone.
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:04 amDon't listen to all the nonsense an old troll in this forum with a new account is writing.jaatelo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:38 amFor moving money from Greece to Finland, I recommend using this service.Hjördis_28 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:03 pmThe whole idea is to settle in Finland and start the job hunt/continue with language courses. It's just that I got kinda lost with the processes, as in when to register the right of residence and how (considering my previous comment on bank statements), if KELA comes next etc. Sounds quite logical to me for KELA to act like that when bank account activities concern banks other than Finnish ones.
https://wise.com/
Most of the time I disagree with you, but this is NOT such a case, here you hit the nail right on its head...
He is on my block-list already, reads much nicer this forum now....I do not see any of his posts anymore except for the quoted parts, that is.. ...refreshing..
Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
Maybe FinlandGirl and NukkuMatti should go out on a date since they agree with each other so much now. Also what kind of a geek takes pleasure in blocking people on an online forum?NukkuMatti wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:55 pm
Most of the time I disagree with you, but this is NOT such a case, here you hit the nail right on its head...
He is on my block-list already, reads much nicer this forum now....I do not see any of his posts anymore except for the quoted parts, that is.. ...refreshing..
I bet I can find a way to display my comments to this user even with his block list active ---- on this poorly written PHP site.
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
I will take that bet... show me and put your money where your mouth (euh ok fingers) is..
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
All of them. Geeks using technology to make communication with remote people more effective and more pleasant is literally why we have the world wide web at all.
What kind of troll would take pleasure in forcing their comments down the throat of someone who's actively blocked them?
Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
SecretCode wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:11 pmAll of them. Geeks using technology to make communication with remote people more effective and more pleasant is literally why we have the world wide web at all.
What kind of troll would take pleasure in forcing their comments down the throat of someone who's actively blocked them?
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
Hi there,
I'm not good at summarising and I write a lot, so only read what you need.
I'm also an EU citizen and I'd like to share the steps I followed for the Sufficient Funds route. I arrived in Finland in December 2020. When I made my application in February 2021, it took me until June to verify my identity at the service point due to lack of appointments.
The steps I followed:
1. I registered at https://enterfinland.fi/eServices/account/login.
2. To create my application, I chose Registrations of EU citizens and their family members (this is for EU individuals or EU citizens with their family members).
3. Then I chose Registration of an EU citizen's right of residence in Finland because I do not have any family members in Finland. My Finnish boyfriend is not a family member because he isn't my spouse.
4. In the application, I will point out some of the important bits:
7. I reserved an appointment for my chosen service point at https://migri.vihta.com/public/migri/#/home (it's recommended to check for appointments each week).
My experience at the service point:
When I visited the service point in Tampere in June, we passed through security and there were 3 other people in the waiting room. We waited for like 5 minutes and my name was called out. The service point officer was very kind as they checked my application. They read out loud a few bits, confirmed a few details like what is my mother tongue, checked my passport and I was approved in less than 15mins. They printed out my registration certificate and I got a social security number. They said it was easy to process my application because I made a really good application, so take their advice! Also, they explained that my registration is permanent, even though I didn't choose "I want to live in Finland permanently". They also said, when I return to study and if I will stay in Finland for a year or more, I need to register my address at https://dvv.fi/henkiloasiakkaat. Currently, my Finnish address is temporary.
I'm not good at summarising and I write a lot, so only read what you need.
I'm also an EU citizen and I'd like to share the steps I followed for the Sufficient Funds route. I arrived in Finland in December 2020. When I made my application in February 2021, it took me until June to verify my identity at the service point due to lack of appointments.
- Currently, the time limit for proving your identity at missions and service points is extended until December 31 2021.
- Always check Customer Bulletin for any updates on this extension and other news.
- You can check the application processing fees at https://migri.fi/en/processing-fees-and-payment-methods.
The steps I followed:
1. I registered at https://enterfinland.fi/eServices/account/login.
2. To create my application, I chose Registrations of EU citizens and their family members (this is for EU individuals or EU citizens with their family members).
3. Then I chose Registration of an EU citizen's right of residence in Finland because I do not have any family members in Finland. My Finnish boyfriend is not a family member because he isn't my spouse.
4. In the application, I will point out some of the important bits:
- Contact Information - There are 2 addresses. In the 1st address, I used my Finnish boyfriend's address. In the 2nd address, I used my home address. It's best if you already have a place to stay in Finland before you verify yourself.
- Purpose of Residence - I chose Sufficient Funds. They did not specify how much you need, but just as long you can support yourself for the duration of your stay and don't become a burden to the Finnish social security system it's enough. I only had €3,000 altogether when I made my application.
- Means of Support - I gave a detailed explanation of my source of funds. Your story will differ from mine since I am a full student with no part-job. When I explained the following below, I used the "Who, What, How and Why" writing technique.
- My scholarship grant - I explained who the company is and how much I am getting each month. I also explained how they could find this information in my (non-Finnish) EU bank statement e.g. this money is indicated as "reference name" ........ You do not need to have a Finnish bank account because you cannot get one unless you are approved in Finland and they prefer if you have a social security number or a residence permit.
- My Credit Union savings - I explained that I have a savings account in case of emergencies.
- My Revolut account - I explained who and what this company is, and my purpose for using it. I highly recommend this if you want to send money or use bank transfer abroad for free. The Finnish version of this is Mobile Pay and Pivo.
- My expenses living with my bf - I explained that I do not pay for anything else besides essential things such as food to sustain myself.
- Marital Status - I chose cohabitating so I could enter the details of my Finnish boyfriend.
- Additional information - I gave a detailed explanation of my other reasons for my application, such as my intentions living in Finland e.g. continue my romantic relationship, return and stay for more than 90 days at a time, study in a Finnish university in the future and find a job.
- (non-Finnish) EU bank statement
- Revolut bank statement
- Credit Union bank statement
- The scholarship letter
- Proof of student registration letter
7. I reserved an appointment for my chosen service point at https://migri.vihta.com/public/migri/#/home (it's recommended to check for appointments each week).
My experience at the service point:
When I visited the service point in Tampere in June, we passed through security and there were 3 other people in the waiting room. We waited for like 5 minutes and my name was called out. The service point officer was very kind as they checked my application. They read out loud a few bits, confirmed a few details like what is my mother tongue, checked my passport and I was approved in less than 15mins. They printed out my registration certificate and I got a social security number. They said it was easy to process my application because I made a really good application, so take their advice! Also, they explained that my registration is permanent, even though I didn't choose "I want to live in Finland permanently". They also said, when I return to study and if I will stay in Finland for a year or more, I need to register my address at https://dvv.fi/henkiloasiakkaat. Currently, my Finnish address is temporary.
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Re: Moving to Finland as a EU citizen-What are the steps to follow?
I guess what is meant by proving sufficient means of support, you might not even need to show a bank account, just an official payslip or paper that proves you get sufficient income monthly..
For example if you have a disabilities benefit allowance (or pension) from lets say Holland, and it is above the limit required for residency, you can just move here and not even need to show a bank account, only the paper of the decision on your allowance...
In that case you will have the public health insurance form the other country (in this example Netherlands) as well..
But.... that is what I was told and I have been wrong before
For example if you have a disabilities benefit allowance (or pension) from lets say Holland, and it is above the limit required for residency, you can just move here and not even need to show a bank account, only the paper of the decision on your allowance...
In that case you will have the public health insurance form the other country (in this example Netherlands) as well..
But.... that is what I was told and I have been wrong before
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