Hi All, I have a question I hope someone can help with.
My grandmother was born in Russia to Finnish parents, her birth certificate state nationality of both parents as Finnish.
Would I be able to obtain a resident permit on that basis, does anyone know?
Thanks!
Residence by descent
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Re: Residence by descent
https://migri.fi/en/descendant-of-a-finnish-citizen
Whether you would be eligible for a resident permit depends on whether she was a Finnish citizen by birth at the time of her birth, which depends on when she was born.
The law in 1880 when Finland was part of Russia was different from the law in 1980 when Finland was independent.
If this would make you eligible, and if your grandmother is not already in the Finnish population information system, you will additionally need a certificate of her parents citizenship from the Finnish National Archives or a Finnish parish.
Re: Residence by descent
Russian birth certificate does not have a citizenship field for parents, it is more like an ethnicity, and it is possibly that her parents/grandparents never had Finnish citizenship and never live in Finland / Karelia / Ingria etc.
So if she was not Finnish citizen by birth - you would had a chance if you joined a queue more than 10 years ago (before 1 July 2011):
https://migri.fi/en/-/inkerinsuomalaist ... y-1-7-2016
But who knows, might be at some moment Finland will decide to re-open that program.
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Re: Residence by descent
Are you talking about Soviet birth certificates or birth certificates from Czarist Russia or both?
The Grand Duchy of Finland was an autonomous part of the Russian Empire with separate citizenship.
Re: Residence by descent
Soviet birth certificates.FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:16 amSoviet birth certificates or birth certificates from Czarist Russia or both?
Czarist Russia birth certificates had no nationality/ethnicity field, just status and occupation for parent(s), and church (religion).
Yes, but there was no such record regarding to 'nationality' in Grand Duchy of Finland's birth certificates also - as there was no such information in original church books.FinlandGirl wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:16 amThe Grand Duchy of Finland was an autonomous part of the Russian Empire with separate citizenship.
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Soviet birth certificate. Does it mean I cannot apply?Are you talking about Soviet birth certificates or birth certificates from Czarist Russia or both?Russian birth certificate does not have a citizenship field for parents, it is more like an ethnicity,
The Grand Duchy of Finland was an autonomous part of the Russian Empire with separate citizenship.
I doubt I will be easily able to recover any further documents but my grandma was born on the Russian territory in 1931. Both parents were Finnish according to her birth certificate.
My DNA test shows I'm 12% Finnish too
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Re: Residence by descent
Whether or not your grandmother was a Finnish citizen by birth depends on the Finnish law in the year 1931.Quito wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:14 pmSoviet birth certificate. Does it mean I cannot apply?Are you talking about Soviet birth certificates or birth certificates from Czarist Russia or both?Russian birth certificate does not have a citizenship field for parents, it is more like an ethnicity,
The Grand Duchy of Finland was an autonomous part of the Russian Empire with separate citizenship.
I doubt I will be easily able to recover any further documents but my grandma was born on the Russian territory in 1931.
This is what matters for the question whether you would be eligible at all.
Finnish authorities won't accept a foreign birth certificate as proof for Finnish citizenship of your great-grandparents.
Information about your great-grandparents might be available in Finnish archives (some of them online) if you know their names, birthdates and places of birth.