Citizenship Application 2022

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kalaizanala
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by kalaizanala » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:36 pm

sealgat wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:22 pm

I read before guesses, that they use also automatic processing of applications. This can probably explain, why some applications are chosen randomly.
If they ordered this automated system from Veikkaus IT department that make sense. Then the citizenship application is most expensive lottery I have ever played.



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sealgat
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by sealgat » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:50 pm

kalaizanala wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:36 pm
sealgat wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:22 pm

I read before guesses, that they use also automatic processing of applications. This can probably explain, why some applications are chosen randomly.
If they ordered this automated system from Veikkaus IT department that make sense. Then the citizenship application is most expensive lottery I have ever played.
+ taxes we payed all these years and language exam :(

skull_maito
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by skull_maito » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:51 pm

sealgat wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:55 am
skull_maito wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:49 am
I made a call to Megrim some days ago, asking them the status of my application. The response I got was that each application is treated differently, and it could take up to 2 years before decision from them. I then asked the officer on phone, on what grounds are those who submitted their applications in January 2022 already getting decisions in July 2022 (7 months) have over those who have been waiting for their applications to even be opened in anyway since over 17 months. She couldn't give an answer.

Well, I know the next step to take, since it's like those who are affected with this long delay have this nonchalant attitude in finding a resolution to their cases. To each man his own.
They issued a press release today...

My application stays in the stage 2 for one month... :(

https://migri.fi/en/-/backlogs-in-the-p ... ications-1
I went through the press release, all I can say is just some usual flimsy excuses they have been giving for close to 3 years. Yes, there might be backlogs, if truly they are taking care of that, why on earth will applications submitted approximately 7-9 months ago take precedence over those waiting 17 months and longer. That is the explanation they are not giving, and that is what I need to be clarified. I haven't been contacted yet if my application is wrongly filled or I need to upload more supplements.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Scolix » Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:23 pm

There is nothing new with todays customer bulletin, other than the increase in the backlog to 19 000 applications.
On 14/05/2021 it was 8786, on 15/11/2021 it was 15000. In all these Migri gives the usual excuses like hoping to clear the backlog soon and using automation. What kind of automation takes 2 years? If they have really taken some steps to reduce the backlog, I'm not seeing it. The applications in the backlog seems to increase from last year and also the processing time. They should know by now whatever methods they have taken, doesn't seem to work. If they really intend on doing something they have double their effort. Last year on an average they gave out 800 decisions per month. These numbers will not bring the backlog down. This year, so far its 1000 decisions per month on an average. At this rate its going to be a very long waiting period for some.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Scolix » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:30 am

Is the second part (XXXX/310/YYYY) of the diary number same for both citizenship by application and declaration?

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by kalaizanala » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:20 am

Scolix wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:23 pm
There is nothing new with todays customer bulletin, other than the increase in the backlog to 19 000 applications.
On 14/05/2021 it was 8786, on 15/11/2021 it was 15000. In all these Migri gives the usual excuses like hoping to clear the backlog soon and using automation. What kind of automation takes 2 years? If they have really taken some steps to reduce the backlog, I'm not seeing it. The applications in the backlog seems to increase from last year and also the processing time. They should know by now whatever methods they have taken, doesn't seem to work. If they really intend on doing something they have double their effort. Last year on an average they gave out 800 decisions per month. These numbers will not bring the backlog down. This year, so far its 1000 decisions per month on an average. At this rate its going to be a very long waiting period for some.
I don't think they have a big budget to hire a lot of workers to deal with backlog. Maybe only 2-3 people more. And they need to be guided how to process this type of applications. This also take time. Unfortunately, it will not speed up the situation.

kalaizanala
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by kalaizanala » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:21 am

Scolix wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:30 am
Is the second part (XXXX/310/YYYY) of the diary number same for both citizenship by application and declaration?
I guess declaration has the other number.

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by choxobooze » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm

I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Scolix » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:55 pm

choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm
I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)
Congratulations!

What was your last queue number?

choxobooze
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by choxobooze » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:58 pm

Scolix wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:55 pm
choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm
I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)
Congratulations!

What was your last queue number?
I think it was around 45xx

shallowpie
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by shallowpie » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:08 pm

choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm
I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)
Congratulations!

"Almost" is not a correct word here: After "just" 7 months today ;)

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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Stone360 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:42 pm

choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:58 pm
Scolix wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:55 pm
choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm
I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)
Congratulations!

What was your last queue number?
I think it was around 45xx
Congratulations 🎉🎈🎊🍾

sealgat
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by sealgat » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:22 pm

choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm
I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)
Congrats! Did u get decision by mail or by sms? How long was your application staying in the 2 stage?

choxobooze
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by choxobooze » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:27 pm

sealgat wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:22 pm
choxobooze wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:52 pm
I just got a positive decision after almost 7 months today :beer_yum: :beer_yum:
Goodluck to everyone else :)
Congrats! Did u get decision by mail or by sms? How long was your application staying in the 2 stage?
I got it through SMS, it stayed one day only

kalaizanala
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by kalaizanala » Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:33 am

Are there any people who applied in July 2021 and already got the decision?


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