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mm_suomi
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Worker from abroad

Post by mm_suomi » Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:34 am

Has someone purchased a running company (lets say a restaurant) and invited some worker from abroad (outside EU) to work in it? How difficult is the process and how long does it normally take? What has been the experience like?

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FinlandGirl
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Re: Worker from abroad

Post by FinlandGirl » Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:15 pm

mm_suomi wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:34 am
Has someone purchased a running company (lets say a restaurant) and invited some worker from abroad (outside EU) to work in it? How difficult is the process and how long does it normally take? What has been the experience like?
Estimated processing time for a residence permit on the basis of work is 2-3 months.

For being granted a residence permit, the employer must establish that there is no available labour force within a reasonable time in Finland or within the EU/EEA for the work in question.

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Re: Worker from abroad

Post by NukkuMatti » Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:13 pm

FinlandGirl wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:15 pm
mm_suomi wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:34 am
Has someone purchased a running company (lets say a restaurant) and invited some worker from abroad (outside EU) to work in it? How difficult is the process and how long does it normally take? What has been the experience like?
Estimated processing time for a residence permit on the basis of work is 2-3 months.

For being granted a residence permit, the employer must establish that there is no available labour force within a reasonable time in Finland or within the EU/EEA for the work in question.
Considering the example given was a restaurant, these requirements are easily met, f.e. Nepalese restaurant that serves Nepalese dishes would require a cook with extensive knowledge and proven track record in creating such dishes. This will by definition be a hard to fulfill job vacancy with Finnish locals (that includes Native Nepalese that are Finnish nationals or residents with a permanent permit), especially if you ad local (Nepalese local that is) specific dishes that only a few skilled persons know how to prepare. To get a Nepalese cook from another EU country to move to Finland (with his whole family), for the low wages paid in Finland, is near impossible to achieve as well. You will most likely not be able to accomplish such endeavor.

So in short: It will not be a big lengthy problem to [sic]"establish that there is no available labor force within a reasonable time in Finland or within the EU/EEA for the work in question." (in the given example of an "exotic" restaurant).
Of course if the restaurant will be serving hamburgers and other fast-food only, this will not work. :lol:

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Re: Worker from abroad

Post by FinlandGirl » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:45 pm

NukkuMatti wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:13 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:15 pm
mm_suomi wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:34 am
Has someone purchased a running company (lets say a restaurant) and invited some worker from abroad (outside EU) to work in it? How difficult is the process and how long does it normally take? What has been the experience like?
Estimated processing time for a residence permit on the basis of work is 2-3 months.

For being granted a residence permit, the employer must establish that there is no available labour force within a reasonable time in Finland or within the EU/EEA for the work in question.
Considering the example given was a restaurant, these requirements are easily met, f.e. Nepalese restaurant that serves Nepalese dishes would require a cook with extensive knowledge and proven track record in creating such dishes. This will by definition be a hard to fulfill job vacancy with Finnish locals (that includes Native Nepalese that are Finnish nationals or residents with a permanent permit), especially if you ad local (Nepalese local that is) specific dishes that only a few skilled persons know how to prepare.
But then you have to show that the person in question is actually one of a few skilled persons who know how to prepare.
Formal education as a cook and several years of experience in that profession might help for that.

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Re: Worker from abroad

Post by NukkuMatti » Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:04 pm

FinlandGirl wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:45 pm
NukkuMatti wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:13 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:15 pm


Estimated processing time for a residence permit on the basis of work is 2-3 months.

For being granted a residence permit, the employer must establish that there is no available labour force within a reasonable time in Finland or within the EU/EEA for the work in question.
Considering the example given was a restaurant, these requirements are easily met, f.e. Nepalese restaurant that serves Nepalese dishes would require a cook with extensive knowledge and proven track record in creating such dishes. This will by definition be a hard to fulfill job vacancy with Finnish locals (that includes Native Nepalese that are Finnish nationals or residents with a permanent permit), especially if you ad local (Nepalese local that is) specific dishes that only a few skilled persons know how to prepare.
But then you have to show that the person in question is actually one of a few skilled persons who know how to prepare.
Formal education as a cook and several years of experience in that profession might help for that.
??? The employee needs to show the employer he / she / it / them can make the dish, that will be obvious. What more proof is needed?? You would not want to hire an employee that cannot do that, that is the whole point. If you want to be sure, send a video making the dish to the employer (not Migri because it can be considered a trade secret). Then when he / she / it / them is hired, Migri can come and taste (and pay for) it :D

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Re: Worker from abroad

Post by FinlandGirl » Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:00 am

NukkuMatti wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:04 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:45 pm
NukkuMatti wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:13 pm


Considering the example given was a restaurant, these requirements are easily met, f.e. Nepalese restaurant that serves Nepalese dishes would require a cook with extensive knowledge and proven track record in creating such dishes. This will by definition be a hard to fulfill job vacancy with Finnish locals (that includes Native Nepalese that are Finnish nationals or residents with a permanent permit), especially if you ad local (Nepalese local that is) specific dishes that only a few skilled persons know how to prepare.
But then you have to show that the person in question is actually one of a few skilled persons who know how to prepare.
Formal education as a cook and several years of experience in that profession might help for that.
??? The employee needs to show the employer he / she / it / them can make the dish, that will be obvious. What more proof is needed?? You would not want to hire an employee that cannot do that, that is the whole point.
There are unfortunately cases where employers are trying to hire unqualified people for fraudulently obtaining a residence permit.
NukkuMatti wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:04 pm
If you want to be sure, send a video making the dish to the employer (not Migri because it can be considered a trade secret). Then when he / she / it / them is hired, Migri can come and taste (and pay for) it :D
For being granted a residence permit, the employer has to convince TE that the applicant has skills that are required and that could not be provided by unemployed people in Finland.

Formal qualifications, work experience and the offered salary are facts TE can evaluate when making the assessment.


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