Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

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Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by aries_primal » Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am

I noticed how many people from different countries are living in working in Finland, and honestly I never expected that. What came to my mind is, are finnish people ok with that? Obviously government supports them since they are coming and staying.

Also, if I am not wrong there are entire neighbors only for foreigners, which means, maybe, finns doesn't want them too close.
Or just my thoughts.



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Re: Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by browndude » Tue May 16, 2023 10:03 am

aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
I noticed how many people from different countries are living in working in Finland, and honestly I never expected that. What came to my mind is, are finnish people ok with that? Obviously government supports them since they are coming and staying.

Also, if I am not wrong there are entire neighbors only for foreigners, which means, maybe, finns doesn't want them too close.
Or just my thoughts.
Imigrants tend to accumulate in certain negihborhoods initially. This fact in itself does not mean that the country in question is not friendly to immigrants. This is a subjective opinion of course, but in the case of Finland however, I do think that the many Finnish people-especially outside the big cities (and now, even within the cities) are not happy with the number and type of immigrants that are in Finland. Hence the move towards the right in the elections.
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Re: Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by AB2000 » Tue May 16, 2023 11:15 am

aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
I noticed how many people from different countries are living in working in Finland
Unless you've lived here for a few decades it is a bit hard to distinguish between native finns and other caucasians.

So, when you say "different countries", what do you mean? And how did you distinguish "people from different countries"?
aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
and honestly I never expected that.
What were you expecting? A "virgin" land? :twisted:
aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
What came to my mind is, are finnish people ok with that? Obviously government supports them since they are coming and staying.
Well, since you came in here, and still around enough to be on this portal, can I ask: How do you draw the conclusions that the "government supports them since they are coming and staying"?
aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
Also, if I am not wrong there are entire neighbors only for foreigners, which means, maybe, finns doesn't want them too close.
Did they tell you to move away? Or?
aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
Or just my thoughts.
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Re: Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by aries_primal » Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm

AB I see you are the forum troll, I am not wasting my time with you. Eat yourself.

[quote=browndude post_id=603785 time=1684220604 user_id=36367

Imigrants tend to accumulate in certain negihborhoods initially. This fact in itself does not mean that the country in question is not friendly to immigrants. This is a subjective opinion of course, but in the case of Finland however, I do think that the many Finnish people-especially outside the big cities (and now, even within the cities) are not happy with the number and type of immigrants that are in Finland. Hence the move towards the right in the elections.
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Well, for example, I passed through Mall of Tripla lately because of the train connection. What I saw shocked me: people digging into trash bins, gypsies begging for money at the entrance, african young guys making inappropriate comments to passing girls, and all this in the middle of a huge crowded mall. I also happened to stop at Malmin tori and I thought train delivered me to one of those poor third world countries: dirty, abandoned, some bazaar for kitch shiny plastic stock, a few km from Helsinki center.
Also people often speak russian, which is, what the @#$%, in this war situation. After second world war and after the attack against Ukraine, and Finland being accepted to Nato, I wouldn't suppose in the kmarket to be asked "would you instead like to communicate with you in russian" :-|

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Re: Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by browndude » Tue May 16, 2023 8:46 pm

aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
AB I see you are the forum troll, I am not wasting my time with you. Eat yourself.

[quote=browndude post_id=603785 time=1684220604 user_id=36367

Imigrants tend to accumulate in certain negihborhoods initially. This fact in itself does not mean that the country in question is not friendly to immigrants. This is a subjective opinion of course, but in the case of Finland however, I do think that the many Finnish people-especially outside the big cities (and now, even within the cities) are not happy with the number and type of immigrants that are in Finland. Hence the move towards the right in the elections.
Well, for example, I passed through Mall of Tripla lately because of the train connection. What I saw shocked me: people digging into trash bins, gypsies begging for money at the entrance, african young guys making inappropriate comments to passing girls, and all this in the middle of a huge crowded mall. I also happened to stop at Malmin tori and I thought train delivered me to one of those poor third world countries: dirty, abandoned, some bazaar for kitch shiny plastic stock, a few km from Helsinki center.
Also people often speak russian, which is, what the @#$%, in this war situation. After second world war and after the attack against Ukraine, and Finland being accepted to Nato, I wouldn't suppose in the kmarket to be asked "would you instead like to communicate with you in russian" :-|
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People in Finland often dig in the trash bins looking for used bottles and cans which they collect and return for money-this is a legitimate way of making money for some. During summer especially, gypsies come to Finland from places like Romania and Bulgaria to do begging. I have seen them also in Switzerland, France, Austria etc.. this too is a long established business. As for the immigrant guys making comments at girls, this is not very sensible of them, and they don't really understand the negative impact they are creating but they are young and don't know any better yet. I have lived in Malmi for over a decade and know the area quite well. So it seems that parts of Malmi have been blue-collar areas even before the immigrants came in and there are lots of city housing around there. Many immigrants and refugees are moved there initially. Malmi looks dodgy only around the train station-a huge upgrade is about to begin there soon btw in any case. In Malmi, when you walk about a few hudred meters away, you start seeing houses with a few luxury cars in the yard. As for Russian, that is for better or worse the most spoken immigrant language in Finland as far as I know.
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Re: Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by 37yqp8098y5 » Wed May 17, 2023 11:13 am

aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
Well, for example, I passed through Mall of Tripla lately because of the train connection. What I saw shocked me: people digging into trash bins, gypsies begging for money at the entrance, african young guys making inappropriate comments to passing girls, and all this in the middle of a huge crowded mall. I also happened to stop at Malmin tori and I thought train delivered me to one of those poor third world countries: dirty, abandoned, some bazaar for kitch shiny plastic stock, a few km from Helsinki center.
Also people often speak russian, which is, what the @#$%, in this war situation. After second world war and after the attack against Ukraine, and Finland being accepted to Nato, I wouldn't suppose in the kmarket to be asked "would you instead like to communicate with you in russian" :-|
I wonder where are you from and have you ever been overseas or seen any other country than your own?

Gypsies dig through trash and beg for money in every European country. It's part of the !"#¤% deal that EU got by accepting them into EU which should never have happened as they contribute nothing to the Eurozone and all this begging and trash collecting simply sends money back to organized crime. As for the rest of the things you see, that's just Africans being Africans, same as how the Gypsies are being Gypsies. Better not tell them to change otherwise you are being racist.

What you are witnessing is the fate of any and all European countries. The difference is that each of them in in a different stage. Sweden is worse along, Finland is in the middle and Norway is fast catching up to being a third-world !"#¤% itself.

The real mess is that Finns vote for more socialist policies and then complain and become racist when they realise that people coming here are only interested in our welfare state and literally nothing else. When political parties offer an alternative everyone acts as though the world will end if the right-wing get into power even just once. So instead they vote for a slow and painful death instead of putting faith in new leadership and change.

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Re: Are finnish ok with so many foreigners?

Post by agroot » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:53 am

aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
Also people often speak russian, which is, what the @#$%, in this war situation. After second world war and after the attack against Ukraine, and Finland being accepted to Nato, I wouldn't suppose in the kmarket to be asked "would you instead like to communicate with you in russian" :-|
They only switch to Russian when speaking to fellow Russian speakers, unless you look Russian.
aries_primal wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 12:35 am
Obviously government supports them since they are coming and staying.
Companies recruit a lot of foreigners and also hire a lot of foreign graduates here since there are too few Finns to fill the positions. They're not supported by the government but by the salary and relocation packages paid by companies and many live in rather expensive part of city centers.

There are of course refugees but the number is so low it doesn't mean anything. Most of those foreign look people you see are already citizens if they speak Finnish.


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