question about moving to Finland

richard berman · Post by **richard berman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:22 pm

My friend from Ireland will be moving to Finland in October to be with his girlfriend. He has been told that he has to have around 900€ to support himself for the first 6 months or a job in Finland. He is from the Eu, is this right. When I came to Finland 7 years ago they did not ask me about money it was so easy then by the looks of things

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Post by **neil** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:43 pm

That's complete rubbish.

richard berman · Post by **richard berman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:21 pm

So where did they come up with this, what does he need?

karen · Post by **karen** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:24 pm

I'd like to see the survival plan for someone with €900 to last 6 months. I need to seriously rework my monthly budget.

Karen

chriscross · Post by **chriscross** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:36 pm

hehehe in finland you would be lucky for 900 euros to last 1 month,,never mind 6 months

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:37 pm

He can come here and stay for 3 monts without trouble. However after the 3 months he needs to have a job in order to be registered as a resident. So basically he won't be eligible for anything unless he's a resident (no dole, zippo nada zilch). Oh, and tell him to get the E101 or whatever its nowadays EU health card.

chriscross · Post by **chriscross** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:53 pm

i am from UK and currently at collage in finland ,studying finnish language and getting kela money etc,,,ive been here for a year and not had a job as yet,,,but still and allways looking!

if yo uare from UK/IRE country ,i have been told from the job center here you can claim upto 6 months job seekers money from england and get it in finland,,,after the 6 months then you can claim Kela money if you are registered on the Finnish Job Center!!!

I did the above

Good luck and hope you find something or some income!

littlefrank · Post by **littlefrank** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:35 pm

>>>My friend from Ireland will be moving to Finland in October<<<

There is no fixed amount of money you need to live in another EEC country, the only time the authorities will want to know if you can support yourself is if you apply for a residence permit.

You can claim money to support yourself while you look for work, but you have to have the proper documentation from your home country, i.e. you prove you are eligible for benefits. I thought it was for three months only, but this may have changed.

I came to Finland with less than half the amount you specified and survived easily, but then I came in May not October.

adalia · Post by **adalia** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:20 pm

Hey,
I'm a first time writer, long time reader of the forum. I've been trying to do some research about this because my boyfriend is moving here from the UK in December and this is what a very confused police lady told me. Please tell me if I got any of it right and if you think that this is the way it works in the real life.. Any tips and experiences are appreciated. Sometimes I feel like having huge difficulties in understanding my native language when it comes to rules like these..

A person from another EU country can come here for 3 months just to look for a job. If they register as a job seeker, they can stay here for 6 months. After that time, they should register as a permanent resident here. This is possible, if you
a) have a full time job, which pays you at least 900 euros a month after taxes
b) in some cases, have a part time job and someone to support you or a lot of money in bank (again, there was that 900 euros a month -rule)
c) based on family ties if you have lived with your partner at least 2 years before applying (if you're married it's different but we're not so I didn't ask about this anything else)

Another way of staying here is to become a student, and they probably have the same rules there than KELA, so just doing some neat courses here and there isn't enough, you actually have to be a full-time student in a real school, university etc.

So in a nutshell, if you don't have a job, a spouse or a school to go to in 6 months, you're gonna be kicked out. Is this the whole story?

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:28 pm

Well, you won't be "kicked out", as in shackled and put on the slow boat, but you won't be getting any residence-based benefits (dole, kela etc.).

adalia · Post by **adalia** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:38 pm

Uhm, OK. The police told me that it's illegal for him to stay here if he doesn't get a residence permit.. So the police won't be hiding in bushes then and catch him when he uses his travel card or something (after that 6 months period)? Or make him suffer horrifically when he does go and apply for the permit at some point?

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:45 pm

Well, if they catch up with him for some reason he may be fined. Like going to apply for a residence permit later on better not say you've been in the country for how long necessarily. They sometimes get stroppy - but I'd say finding *some* job he can do it in 6 months.

adalia · Post by **adalia** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:51 pm

Yeh, I'm quite sure he'll find something before next summer. Cheers

Rahela-Hanna · Post by **Rahela-Hanna** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:54 pm

richard berman wrote:My friend from Ireland will be moving to Finland in October to be with his girlfriend. He has been told that he has to have around 900€ to support himself for the first 6 months or a job in Finland. He is from the Eu, is this right. When I came to Finland 7 years ago they did not ask me about money it was so easy then by the looks of things

Man, I think that that is rubbish! The police and the American Embassy of Finland told me that I would need either the princely sum of 6,000 Euroa to only show to the Finnish authorities to let them know that I have something with which to fall back on and support myself should anything go wrong; or else I had to have only 500 Euroa to show them a month until I had finally obtained the needed 6,000, for the same reasons. But the latter of these possibilities was only if I was going to Oulu University like I want, I believe. I can't properly remember.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:42 am

Yeah, but you are a 3-rd world country person. You know, China, USA, Russia etc...

EU is a different thing.

BTW if your parents are/were Finnish you could try obtaining a Finnish citizenship as the new law allows dual citizenship, so then you'd need not as much hassle with permits. You'd need the dosh though for studying anyhow, as it somehow just... goes...

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