Double consonants...

technik733 · Post by **technik733** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:03 am

How do you pronounce double consonants like kk and tt? I am from america

(sadly) and I just can't see how it's possible to sustain the k or t sound at all...

Kiitos

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kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:43 am

technik733 wrote:How do you pronounce double consonants like kk and tt? I am from america (sadly) and I just can't see how it's possible to sustain the k or t sound at all...

Kiitos

kukka ( flower ) and hattu ( hat ) are pronounced like this :
http://www.mikropuhe.com/demo.asp?maile ... ka+++hattu

Click on "Kuuntele puhe" and you can hear it as many times as you want to!

technik733 · Post by **technik733** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:04 am

Oh, so there is a stop between the consonants? That make more sense.

Thanks!

Kompostiturska · Post by **Kompostiturska** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:04 pm

You've got the point, but I don't think "stop" is a right word. You have to "hold" the consonant before "releasing" it. So when saying "kokko", you start with "ko" and then basically put your tongue into a "K" position, hold it there for the required time to double the K and after that let out the other "ko". So it's "ko[ HOLD THE K ]ko". In other words, you have the consonant ready for release during the "stop".

technik733 · Post by **technik733** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:10 pm

That's basically what happens when I try to hold it anyway, and that's what I mean by stop, but thank you again.

PS: Sorry I've been away; I chipped my processor while putting the heatsink back on and had to build a new system. I'm back though.

soda · Post by **soda** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:25 pm

It does take a while to get used to this, and I wouldn't worry about it too much at first - it'll come with time.

If you think of words in English like 'personnel', it's actually not far off.

Sn0bunni24 · Post by **Sn0bunni24** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:04 am

Basically, it's a syllable division with double consonants. When consonants appear as double, they always belong to two different syllables. So, practice: kuk-ka, tyt-tö, pap-pi, etc. Pretty easy, I'd say. When you do say them, remember to always stress the first syllable, not the last. Minä olen Amerikkalainen myös. So I completely understand it's pretty hard to learn Finnish here.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:24 am

Yeah, well, if you think double consonants are difficult, hike over to Estonia. They can have triple consonants, and a one-and-half vowels, and it doesn't depend on the writing, you need to know when you write one and where two or three letters even the sound is double

Ilta A · Post by **Ilta A** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:45 pm

soda wrote:It does take a while to get used to this, and I wouldn't worry about it too much at first - it'll come with time.

Well, if you don´t even try, you´ll hardly be understood. There are so many words in which the meaning changes totally if you replace double consonant with one consonant.

kuka - kukka
mato - matto
sana - Sanna
and so on...

Pavlor · Post by **Pavlor** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:04 pm

Hank W. wrote:Yeah, well, if you think double consonants are difficult, hike over to Estonia. They can have triple consonants, and a one-and-half vowels, and it doesn't depend on the writing, you need to know when you write one and where two or three letters even the sound is double

Finnish has 3 levels of vowel length as well Hank. I can't remember where I read it and I maybe confusing it with Estonian, but I am pretty sure thinking that Finnish was marvellous when I stumbled across it!

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