Aliens Act Section 80: Limit of 25 hours per week

[gee]

Hei


Can somebody help me with an explanation of the section 80 of the Finnish Aliens Act.

It says that student can work full time when there are no classes at the educational institute.

Section 80

Restricted employment under residence
permits other than residence permits for
employed persons

(1) An alien has the right to gainful
employment if he or she has been issued with
a residence permit:
1) for studying if the employment is a
traineeship required for a degree or other
qualification or part of the preparation of a
research paper required for the studies and in
the form of gainful employment or if the
average amount of work is 25 hours a week
at a time when there are classes at the
educational institution, or if the full-time
work is at a time when there are no classes at
the educational institution; (34/2006)

Does it mean that I can work only during holidays or it also alows me to work while I do my master's thesis and don't have any other classes. I've already collected all my credits and don't need to attend any classes.

Any answers are highly appreciable.

Thanks in advance,
Gee

[sammy]

Can sombody help me with the explanation of section 80 of the Finnish Aliens Act.

Moi,

Well I'm not sure if I can give you a clear answer but the "explanation" for that 25-hour part-time work limit is that students are supposed to be primarily studying (this especially in view of the grounds that they have been granted a student residence permit, not a work permit) during the academic year.

That said, I do not know whether or not the mere fact that "there are classes" (even when you personally do not need to attend them) means that you are not legally eligible to work full-time. You see, Big Brother might say that technically, you are still studying, and "should" be sweating it out with the thesis so you'd only be allowed the part-time option until you graduate...

Hmm. A tricky one! Does anyone have first-hand experience on this?

[gee]

Thanks for your reply Sammy.

Anybody can interpret this section from his/her own point of view.

Hope that someone has already gone through this and can make the thisngs clear.

[rinso]

As I see it, it says:
you can work if:
1- you are on a traineeships, or
2- there are classes (no matter if you attend them or not), but max 25 hours, or
3- there are no classes, full time

[sammy]

As I see it, it says:
you can work if:
1- you are on a traineeships, or
2- there are classes (no matter if you attend them or not), but max 25 hours, or
3- there are no classes, full time

Yes, that much is clear - but I'm not sure whether (in the eyes of the Authorities) "attending classes" equals to "not attending classes but working on a Master's thesis"... my guess is that it does, i.e. until one graduates, one is still technically a full-time student with a student residence permit even if one does not go to classes but works independently towards graduation. So, on these grounds -no matter how a student himself/herself might interpret it- the powers that be could argue that no, you're not allowed to work full-time yet.

The tricky part is that from the practical point of view of someone who has completed all the classes and "only" needs to finish his/her thesis, it seems rather irrelevant whether the university is 'on Christmas/summer holiday' or not.

Is a student allowed to work while studying?

Students are permitted to do a limited amount of paid work under a residence permit issued for studies if the work in question is practical training included in the studies or final project work. Part-time employment is also possible, if the working time comes to an average of 25 hours per week at most. There are no limitations on working hours in full-time employment during holidays, specifically the summer and Christmas holidays.

Anyone been there, done that?

[gee]

Thanks for your suggestions

Any real practice?

[gee]

As I see it, it says:
you can work if:
1- you are on a traineeships, or
2- there are classes (no matter if you attend them or not), but max 25 hours, or
3- there are no classes, full time

Do you mean that if students from the other fuculty have to attend something it is relevant to me as well?

[rinso]

I interpret it as:
there are classes = the collage year minus holidays.
They won't go in detail which classes are specific for you.
If the uni is open for classes, it's 25 hours for you.

[sammy]

I interpret it as:
there are classes = the collage year minus holidays.
They won't go in detail which classes are specific for you.
If the uni is open for classes, it's 25 hours for you.

gee, unless someone surfaces with opposing information, I think it might boil down to the basic tenet that with a student residence permit, you are supposed to 'behave like a student' and study full-time during term times. Whether you actually attend classes, sit in the library reading, or write your thesis at home... that may not make much difference to the rule.

[gee]

Yep, that's the only way just to wait until somone confirms or disproves our supposition based on his/her own experience.

Anyway, thanks for your answers

[raamv]

Yep, that's the only way just to wait until somone confirms or disproves our supposition based on his/her own experience.

Anyway, thanks for your answers

Why dont you call UVI to find this out instead of supposing?

[gee]

Why dont you call UVI to find this out instead of supposing?

I'll do it in 8 hours...

[gee]

you were right.

I've been to the immigration office and they told that I can work only when there are no classes at my university for all students. That means I can work only during holidays.

[sammy]

you were right.

I've been to the immigration office and they told that I can work only when there are no classes at my university for all students. That means I can work only during holidays.

Small correction, you can only work full-time during the holidays. During term times you still can, while doing your thesis, work part-time ie max 25 hrs per week. I hope this suits your situation...

[gee]

How do you think this average amout of hours per week is calculated?
What is the period measuring? Week, month, term or study year?