Neil Hardwick, Sat 15.12 Mtv3 @ 19.15

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:38 pm

Didn't know if it would be better under culture and cuisine or kielikoulu, but Hardwick is one of the fathers of Finnish tv comedy who started here in the 1970's.

So if you think that you have it hard... imagine landing here 1969, and then whine with perspective

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kalmisto · Post by **kalmisto** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:42 pm

And how did Mr Hardwick learn to speak perfect Finnish ? Is he an expert on Finnish grammar ? Does he know all the rules ? I do not think so. Did he refuse to speak English to Finns ?

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:53 pm

I think you're correct, kalmisto, I doubt he knows all the grammar rules, he just speaks.

As said before, IMO the key is to learn Finnish grammar for 6-18 months, then just try to speak, listen, and speak again. Then do that for 4+ years and you're there!

English is a language that can be learned with only very basic grammar, whereas in Finnish you need fairly good grammar before you can break an unknown word down into it's basic form so you can look it up in a dictionary.

I really admire Neil, Roman, Keke, etc, they are "true integrators"!

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:53 pm

He actually started with an "English course for kids" programme...

I think Sammy, Cowboy and EP can answer:
"Hello, hello, hello. Where is the cat?"

Dunno about perfect - natives don't know the grammar rules - his pronunciation is better than my famu and fafa anyways... Maybe he is a cunning linguist.

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:56 pm

in a tree?

Whereas in England he was with an owl, in a beautiful pea-green boat.

Well, you gotta start somewhere

mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:58 pm

http://www.yle.fi/cgi-mod/teema/trivia. ... &trivia=38

Clip from the series: http://oppiminen.yle.fi/artikkeli?id=5493

littlefrank · Post by **littlefrank** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:01 pm

'in a tree?'

No the cat is in the moon.

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:07 pm

Yup, I knew that thanks.

In fact for the reason that it was such an effing obvious answer to anyone who knows a Finn who has learned English in a Finnish school (probably 90% of this forum?), I decided to have my cat "in a tree".

mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:09 pm

coincidently Garfield movie is on MTV3 as we speak...

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:09 pm

I'll rip that of the DVD as a present and you'll have Eili forever traumatised

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:34 pm

why is the cat in the moon and not on the moon? did it take a drill with it?

mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:44 pm

COBHC wrote:why is the cat in the moon and not on the moon? did it take a drill with it?

the same reason you're in Finland and not on Finland?

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:10 pm

No, the cat is on the moon. that is how it should be. just like we are on earth and not in the earth.

mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:30 pm

COBHC wrote:No, the cat is on the moon. that is how it should be. just like we are on earth and not in the earth.

Well Neil's British, so maybe that's English and not American...

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:31 pm

I'm English.

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