The Myyrmanni mall bombing/Evidence of a black op

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The Myyrmanni mall bombing/Evidence of a black op

Post by starviego » Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:15 am

10-11-02 Myyrmanni mall bombing


On or about 7:35PM on Friday Oct 11, 2002, an explosion occured in the Myyrmanni shopping center in Vantaa, Finland(40 km north of Helsinki). A bomb was quickly identified as the culprit. The explosion killed seven, including two teenagers, a 7-year-old child and the bomber(his body was the last to be identified). 166 people were injured, including 10 children. 66 victims required hospitalization. There was a clown performance aimed at children at the shopping center just before the explosion occurred, possibly indicating the children were the intended target. Early reports that this was a result of poliitical terrorism were quickly changed to being the act of a lone nut-- one Petri Gerdt, 19, a Finnish citizen and a student at a local technical college. There is no question that Gerdt was interested in explosive devices:

--"....from an early age he had a fascination with fireworks and explosives."

--"Petri Gerdt had downloaded instructions for bomb making from the internet. ...When police searched his home they found instructions and material on making the bomb."

http://research.lifeboat.com/loner.htm
--During weekends he spent much time surfing the Internet. He is believed to have used the pseudonym RC on a number of message boards. RC was a frequent contributor on a message board known as the 'Forum for Home Chemistry,' focusing on pyrotechnics. RC appeared to be something of an expert in the field...

Petri's father acknowledged that his son was interested in building bombs and his son had detonated devices in the woods near their house. In a book he wrote afterward--"Petri's Path to Myyrmanni," Armas Gerdt suggested that Petri had merely been passing through the mall on his way there when the bomb was set off accidentally. But because the explosive device had thousands of steel shotgun-size pellets taped to it, police concluded his attack was intentional. Though they could not conclude whether it was a suicide attack or whether Gerdt had hoped to detonate the device remotely from a distance.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/sari.hietala/dia ... ry1004.htm
Evidently he used a mobile phone as a timer and something went wrong and the bomb exploded when he was still carrying it.

[Comment: Note how they don't even consider the possibility that someone else decided to "call" this phone number at exactly this moment.]


Though the experts were at a loss to explain the motive. His fellow students described him as an introverted person, a loner, a quiet and withdrawn young man who would sit at the rear of the classroom and who rarely took part in student events. He was described as a "quiet man who liked solitude, basketball, and computers." His acquaintainces described him as a completely normal person, with 'no indications of the dark side of the mind.' Gerdt lived with his family in Vantaa, who were deeply shocked and receiving counselling. "The incident came as a total surprise and shock to them. They had no idea of what was to happen," an investigator said.

Various theories of motive were floated: Gerdt had recently broken up with his girlfriend, he was part of a cult, he was an anti-corporate extremist(the bomb exploded outside a McDonalds), he was suffering from mental problems--though none of them seemed to pan out. Though investigators were certain of only one thing: Gerdt did not have links to any radical groups or terrorist organizations. As evidence of intent, police quoted several posts he had made in the weeks prior to the bombing attack:

On the Internet, Gerdt -- who went by the alias "rc" -- had discussed using remote-controlled detonators with "Einstein," according to The Associated Press.
"Radio-controlled is every boy's dream. No wires ... and no danger to oneself (you can go far off and hide)," "Einstein" wrote on August 28.
Three days later, "rc" replied that it wasn't foolproof because the receiver could fail, or get a signal from a wrong source.
"But I admit it's the best possible triggering device for amateurs," "rc" said. "It explodes exactly when you want it to, if you want it to."

Luckily for the police, an anonymous acquaintance--"Hessu"--seemed to close the case on the suspect:

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europ ... nki.blast/
Gerdt had bragged to friends for almost a year that he would detonate a bomb in a public place, Finnish media reported. "Pete (Petri) planned the attack for at least a year," a student nicknamed Hessu told the tabloid Ilta-Sanomat.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A9649C8B63
He appears to have had few acquaintances there, but the newspaper Ilto Sanomat printed an interview with a young man(aka 'Hessu') in his 20s who said he met Mr. Gerdt in a bar a year or so ago and became his friend, even as Mr. Gerdt began to speak obsessively about explosives. He ''was just raving,'' said the man, who telephoned the police hot-line number with his account of their friendship and whose statements are now being investigated by the police. ''It was nothing but 'bomb, bomb, bomb.' I never believed he would carry out his plans.'' The friend, who spoke on condition that his name not be used, told the newspaper that Mr. Gerdt had been ''excited'' by the Sept. 11 attacks and that when he discussed his own scheme, he always spoke of setting a timer so that he could escape before the bomb went off. If that is true, he clearly miscalculated and did not get out in time. ''He didn't believe he would be caught,'' the friend said. ''He said he could then boast about what he did to his buddies.''

[Comment: The quite, introverted loner goes into a bar and starts 'raving' on how he wants to bomb a lot of innocent people, so that later he can 'boast' about it to his non-existent friends. Suuuure..... ]



Like a lot of the 'Columbine-clients,' Gerdt seemed to have had 'strange dreams' before the act:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A9649C8B63
Last week, several days before he set off a bomb that killed seven people... Petri Gerdt posted his last message, containing the shadowy details of a strange dream ''about accidents, authorities and other kinds of funny happenings.''

http://research.lifeboat.com/loner.htm
--"No major accidents have happened to me, but once I had a dream that a police car drove to a detonation site. Good thing I was 'floating' in another direction," wrote RC.


And there are the usual gaps in the timeline:

http://www2.hs.fi/english/archive/news. ... 0021018IE6
Between 6:10 and 6:20 PM on Friday Gerdt went up the Myyrmanni escalator to the third floor, where public toilets, as well as some facilities of the school Gerdt attended, are located.He must have left the building sometime later, because security cameras caught him coming in again at 7:20. Fifteen minutes later, the bomb went off killing Gerdt and six others. .... Earlier in the afternoon Gerdt had been to the district of Mellunmäki in the east of Helsinki, and police are looking into whether or not he was visiting friends during a period of three hours last Friday afternoon.


The acid test for a covert operation is the political fallout after the attack, and in this case there was plenty of reaction:

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=My ... %20bombing
...It is important to note, though, that immediately when Gerdt's discussions on Internet Forums were discovered an unprecedented wave of anti-internet propaganda surfaced.

--Jari Liukku, assistant chief of the National Bureau of Investigation in Finland, said that Mr. Gerdt had been heavily influenced ''by crimes abroad'' and that he believed that it was no coincidence that the bombing took place on Oct. 11, a month after Sept. 11. ''A lot of people taking part in these discussions on the Internet take models from foreign crimes that have already happened,'' he said. ''It's a dangerous phenomenon, to use the Internet this way.''

--The Social Democrats seized the opportunity to intensify efforts to censor Internet news groups, bulletin boards and websites. A bill already going through parliament is seeking to extend restrictions on freedom of speech on the Internet. Itala told parliament that in future orders could be issued to remove messages, news postings and web pages. Every online publication would need to name an editor who could be held responsible for postings on message boards they operated. The bill is due to become law next autumn.

[Comment: This helpful "Pearl Harbor-type" event was 'made to order'!]



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Re: The Myyrmanni mall bombing/Evidence of a black op

Post by sinikettu » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:24 am

starviego wrote:10-11-02 Myyrmanni mall bombing


On or about 7:35PM on Friday Oct 11, 2002, an explosion occured in the Myyrmanni shopping center in Vantaa, Finland(40 km north of Helsinki).
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Non niin he is back...with another American style covert operation .(see starviego's earlier posts). :roll: and as the first line has moved Myyrmäki from 15 kilometers from Helsinki to 40 kilometers the explosion must have been quite..big.. :roll:
Most of the other stuff is old hat copy paste from theories spun at the time.
Six years ago...all these wild theories have been disproved since then.

One thing that is now a strong possibility was that Petri had the "bomb" in his ruck sack...and accidentaly dropped it..The volatile fuze he had made...ignited...

As I was actualy present at the time..(just walking out of the doors by the Red Onion Pub)...I can only say that I would like to forget that day...But I cannot....over 100 people were injured by the ball bearings that this sick boy had packed around the explosives...Not a pretty sight...
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Post by karen » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:53 am

I usually took my son (1yo at the time) shopping on Friday nights but it was my birthday so we stayed home. Thank goodness you were on the other side of the building, sinikettu. I still feel uneasy when I shop there. I try not to dwell on what might have been in my case and send good thoughts to the people who were affected.

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Post by otyikondo » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:50 pm

Welcome back Starvosan! Has the subprime mind-control market in the US collapsed or what?

Since I have read - and kept - most or all of the transcripts of IRC channels for that night and the next two or three days, in addition to the Home Chemistry board screen grabs that came up at the time, I can only add that nothing much indicated any involvement other than Petri and his fevered mind. But of course one could argue (if one had a fevered mind) that the fever was inserted by the pernicious STATE...

It was, incidentally, a HUGE wake-up call for the mainstream media - and to some extent the police for that matter - who were caught pretty much with their trousers around their ankles as a bunch of acned nerds solved the case and reported the perp between 24 and 48 hours before the rags got it. By the time Jokela came around, they (the press) had learnt their lesson and were all over the boards like a rash.

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Post by enk » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:13 pm

starviego wrote:His fellow students described him as an introverted person, a loner, a quiet and withdrawn young man who would sit at the rear of the classroom and who rarely took part in student events.
Never been in a class with Finns yet have you? That would describe everyone
in the bloody class except for the loudmouthed, brash American amongst them.
Or the Russians who can't seem to shut up for anything.
otyikondo wrote:...as a bunch of acned nerds solved the case and reported the perp between 24 and 48 hours before the rags got it.
Have we met irl? :lol:

Anywho, people who can actually read Finnish (unlikes starviego), would know that
our loving community's rc spent one heck of a lot of time *translating* texts from English
into Finnish and IMNSHO had not a clue most of the time as to what he was talking
about. I still think he was a dumb cluck who started believing in his ability to translate
far too much. But hey, what would I know since I can't manage to turn it into a Ken
Follett - Tom Clancy -type plotline. :twisted:

-enk
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Post by Hank W. » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:16 pm

otyikondo wrote:who were caught pretty much with their trousers around their ankles as a bunch of acned nerds solved the case and reported the perp between 24 and 48 hours before the rags got it
Hrmpf... I hang around a board "Einstein" frequents.
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Post by Hank W. » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:21 pm

starviego wrote: Like a lot of the 'Columbine-clients,' Gerdt seemed to have had 'strange dreams' before the act:

http://research.lifeboat.com/loner.htm
--"No major accidents have happened to me, but once I had a dream that a police car drove to a detonation site. Good thing I was 'floating' in another direction," wrote RC.
Just need to point out that if you "dream" of things that happened then it is not confessing to a crime. Or do you think he was that stupid to write:
"No major accidents have happened to me, but once I had a police car drive to a detonation site. Good thing I was running in another direction"
The "Home chemistry" was a lot of dreaming going on. For obvious reasons.
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Post by Oombongo » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:57 am

Black Op....BLACK OP?

Dude...this is one helluva whacko title I read in ages :roll:
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Post by starviego » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:58 am

The NWO is very strong in Finland, I fear. Here is a Finn who has a much better idea of what motivates a Petri Gerdt and Pekka Auvinen, if you dare imagine such a thing:


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/mi ... ontrol.htm

Microchip Implants, Mind Control, and Cybernetics
- by Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, MD Former Chief Medical Officer of Finland December 6, 2000

"Yoneji Masuda, "Father of the Information Society," stated his concern in 1980 that our liberty is threatened Orwellian-style by cybernetic technology totally unknown to most people. This technology links the brains of people via implanted microchips to satellites controlled by ground-based supercomputers. ...

Thirty years ago brain implants showed up in X-rays the size of one centimeter. Subsequent implants shrunk to the size of a grain of rice. They were made of silicon, later still of gallium arsenide. Today they are small enough to be inserted into the neck or back, and also intravenously in different parts of the body during surgical operations, with or without the consent of the subject. It is now almost impossible to detect or remove them. ..... Implanted human beings can be followed anywhere. Their brain functions can be remotely monitored by supercomputers and even altered through the changing of frequencies. ..... Today's microchips operate by means of low-frequency radio waves that target them. With the help of satellites, the implanted person can be tracked anywhere on the globe. ...

When a 5-micromillimeter microchip (the diameter of a strand of hair is 50 micromillimeters) is placed into optical nerve of the eye, it draws neuroimpulses from the brain that embody the experiences, smells, sights, and voice of the implanted person. Once transferred and stored in a computer, these neuroimpulses can be projected back to the person’s brain via the microchip to be reexperienced. Using a (remote monitoring system)RMS, a land-based computer operator can send electromagnetic messages (encoded as signals) to the nervous system, affecting the target's performance. With RMS, healthy persons can be induced to see hallucinations and to hear voices in their heads. .... Each of us has a unique bioelectrical resonance frequency in the brain, just as we have unique fingerprints. With electromagnetic frequency (EMF) brain stimulation fully coded, pulsating electomagnetic signals can be sent to the brain, causing the desired voice and visual effects to be experienced by the target. This is a form of electronic warfare. ...

The mass media has not reported that an implanted person's privacy vanishes for the rest of his or her life. She can be manipulated in many ways. Using different frequencies, the secret controller of this equipment can even change a person's emotional life. She can be made aggressive or lethargic. Sexuality can be artificially influenced. Thought signals and subconscious thinking can be read, dreams affected and even induced, all without the knowledge or consent of the implanted person. ...

Mind control techniques can be used for political purposes. The goal of mind controllers today is to induce the targeted persons or groups to act against his or her own convictions and best interests. Zombified individuals can even be programmed to murder and remember nothing of their crime afterward. Alarming examples of this phenomenon can be found in the U.S. This “silent war” is being conducted against unknowing civilians and soldiers by military and intelligence agencies. Since 1980, electronic stimulation of the brain(ESB) has been secretly used to control people targeted without their knowledge or consent. .....
Covert neurological communication systems are in place to counteract independent thinking and to control social and political activity on behalf of self-serving private and military interests.

One reason this technology has remained a state secret is the widespread prestige of the psychiatric Diagnostic Statistical Manual IV produced by the U.S. American Psychiatric Association (APA) and printed in 18 languages. ...This psychiatric "bible" covers up the secret development of MC technologies by labeling some of their effects as symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. Victims of mind control experimentation are thus routinely diagnosed, knee-jerk fashion, as mentally ill by doctors who learned the DSM “symptom” list in medical school. Physicians have not been schooled that patients may be telling the truth when they report being targeted against their will or being used as guinea pigs for electronic, chemical and bacteriological forms of psychological warfare.



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This article was originally published in the 36th-year edition of the Finnish-language journal SPEKULA (3rd Quarter, 1999). SPEKULA is a publication of Northern Finland medical students and doctors of Oulu University OLK (Oulun Laaketieteellinen Kilta).

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Post by sammy » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:30 am

starviego wrote:The NWO is very strong in Finland, I fear. Here is a Finn who has a much better idea of what motivates a Petri Gerdt and Pekka Auvinen, if you dare imagine such a thing:


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/mi ... ontrol.htm

Microchip Implants, Mind Control, and Cybernetics
- by Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, MD Former Chief Medical Officer of Finland December 6, 2000


(+ yadda yadda blabber yadda)
Prithee sir, are we perhaps talking about the same Luukanen-Kilde, who -according to her own words- was miraculously saved by aliens in a car accident back in 1985, henceforth giving up her career as a doctor and concentrating all her time and energy (that is, when she's not having tea with aliens) proving e.g. that

-the Germans visited the Moon already in the 1940's (unequivocal evidence: can anyone deny the fact that when Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon, he did not see one single synagogue out there!)

-that there is actually a thick atmosphere on the other, hidden side of the Moon ("only two people in Finland know this", well make it three now since I'm convinced)

-that the US army arranges 18-month courses for anyone willing to discover how to use your astral body, so as to be able to escape into safety underground (or perhaps even to another planet altogether) if a crisis situation would ensue

-the US has already visited the planet Mars


She has also reported having had several out-of-body experiences.

Well she is definitely out of her something, but what exactly, escapes my mind just now...

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Post by sinikettu » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:01 am

sammy wrote:
Well she is definitely out of her something, but what exactly, escapes my mind just now...
I did a Google to see where and what our friend from San Diego has been posting.
We are one of many of the places he/she or it, pisses on...
Play grounds range from Occult to the Moon.
Here is one sample..

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread228205/pg8


One of the banner adds on that site made me smile..
Has otyikondo been doing some fly posting :wink:

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Post by sammy » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:33 am

sinikettu wrote:I did a Google to see where and what our friend from San Diego has been posting.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread228205/pg8
Yep...
starviego wrote:anybody who posts online can easily be tracked to an address from whence he posted
The only real mystery in the whole thing is this: if you add this marvel of today's technology, tracking of IP addresses, to the other supposedly much more sophisticated and clandestine feats of the NWO - then try and explain why an organisation capable of planting microchips in our minds etc seems not to be able to silence those who leak out their "secrets" to the public... very suspicious... sorry but there's only one possible conclusion... starviego's one of THEM himself! :lol: :lol:

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Post by sammy » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:21 am

starviego wrote:Myyrmanni shopping center in Vantaa, Finland (40 km north of Helsinki)
Btw sinikettu did you know this - THEY have fooled us so blatantly about the distance as well? No doubt there are some "secret miles" in between that lay folks like us are just simply not told about, hidden from the eyes of the cartographers too... I wonder what black secrets may lie in that dark twilight territory? A booming trenchcoat industry perchance? :)

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Post by Hank W. » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:50 am

Well, if you take the distance from Helsingin kasuuni...
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Post by sinikettu » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:09 am

Hank W. wrote:Well, if you take the distance from Helsingin kasuuni...
I know what it is ...but where is it exactly?

http://www.furu.fi/FIN009.html


By the way I pointed out the 40 kilometer error in my first post/answer to Hullu San Diegosaa...
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