HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

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Nousiainen
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HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Nousiainen » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:35 am

Hi,

Today I've got the letter of acceptance from Haaga-Helia. The major is International Business and starts in August late.
The problem is that there's a really good chance that I also get aproved to HSE, Kauppakorkeakoulu, due to my SAT reasoning test, which was 30 points more than the last applicant aproved of last year.

So if I get accepted to HSE, I will have to choose between Haaga-Helia and HSE. Currently, I think that HSE is much better, because it is a university itself, has a good know-how and reputation. On the other hand Haaga-Helia is considered the best UAS for many, but yet is a "polytechnic".

If somebody could help me, I'd appreciate.

:D



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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Rosamunda » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:42 am

I thought they were all "universities" now. :?

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by sammy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:56 am

Depends a bit - you should notice that polytechnics (universities of applied sciences) and 'traditional' universities are not strictly speaking directly comparable. The former provides what might be called "vocational higher education" and the latter "academic higher education". It's perhaps a crude definition and in reality not exactly so black-and-white, but think of practical / theoretical. This is how the Min of Ed describes the two:
The Finnish higher education system consists of two complementary sectors: polytechnics and universities. The mission of universities is to conduct scientific research and provide instruction and postgraduate education based on it. Polytechnics train professionals in response to labour market needs and conduct R&D which supports instruction and promotes regional development in particular.
Incidentally, you may notice that the Ministry avoids the use of "universities of applied science" but that's quite another can of worms!

If you'd want to continue to do a Master's in Finland after a polytechnic degree, you may need to do some bridging studies (how much exactly, depends on the university - you might e.g. wish to check what the HSE says about applying to their Master's programmes with a polytechnic business degree). Polytechnics also offer their own Master's degrees, however you need a Bachelor's plus three years of relevant work experience to apply to them, they're sort of "continuing education" degrees for people already in the working life.

Sure enough, HSE probably has a "better" reputation and so on, but that's not to say the polytechnic alternative would be bad for you. Depends on what your goals are.

I have no personal experience of either, just a few general-level thoughts...

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Hank W. » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:58 am

HSE definitely. Not disparaging HH as I've been there for BIT, but all the prestigious Nowheremäki polytechnics churn out "International Business" graduates 14,5 a dozen. Unless its BIT or the multilingual assistant programme, or the travel&tourism that are more hands-on professions.
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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Nousiainen » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:35 pm

Quick question. I still have to leave the application to Kauppis (SAT is organized by a different company, Collegeboard). So I have to print a letter of motivation, but I don't have a printer. Does anybody know where can I print it? I mean like a photo store or smth.

BTW, is the letter of motivation really important to the decision?

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by natty » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:21 pm

I and many of other friends vote for Kauppis!!

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by sammy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:26 pm

Nousiainen wrote:Does anybody know where can I print it? I mean like a photo store or smth.
Yes, just go round that corner -surely you must know which corner- and then a couple of streets left :wink:

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Nousiainen » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:16 pm

Mitääää??? :P

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by sammy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:29 pm

Nousiainen wrote:Mitääää??? :P
...just wondering where exactly you are at the mo. Hard to give advice without that piece of trivia... if you happen to be in Vanuatu, the fact that some libraries, internet cafes etc in Helsinki might have a printing option is not of much worth to you is it... :wink:

But wherever you are - why don't you just ask a friend?

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Nousiainen » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:01 pm

Ajaa, I live in Helsinki, sorry forgot to mention it. :P

But anyways, I got it already. Had to ask my old boss. ahahaha

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Re: HELP! Kauppis or Haaga-Helia?!!!!

Post by Nousiainen » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:39 pm

As expected I passed to both... Did a little research and found out that HSE is ranked as the 20th best school of business in Europe. That surprised me pretty much..

Is there anybody here who works in any financial/business area? If so, how's the cenario nowadays in Finland in such area?
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