Nepalese students who are trying to come here.....

[everestbear]

I have no solid suggestions to give you but I think www.nepalfinland.com is providing factual information. You can refer to the site for some info. I think it's a blog where you can post your queries. i don't know how it works but the information provided there are factual and detailed.

[Hank W.]

http://www.nepalfinland.com/2008/04/avo ... nepal.html
I really get angry at this kind of "consultants" ripping people off. If the person is intelligent enough they can do everything themselves. If not - then no consultant can help, because if you cannot find the information yourself you will not have a big chance to pass the examinations, but these consultants fill the system up with applications of more money than sense.

[infokiec]

http://www.nepalfinland.com/2008/04/avo ... nepal.html
I really get angry at this kind of "consultants" ripping people off. If the person is intelligent enough they can do everything themselves. If not - then no consultant can help, because if you cannot find the information yourself you will not have a big chance to pass the examinations, but these consultants fill the system up with applications of more money than sense.

What do you means to say? I really disagree upon your anger against the consultancy (Advising body), I think Vision is most important things to achieve the opportunities and without knowledge no one can explore vision, and for the proper knowledge advice from the professional is most important and for those who want to go abroad for study proper advice is most important.

But you always shows your anger against towards the consultancy, Please be constructive not the destructive, all may not be same. All aspect may have positive and negative matter. I have a great concern, yeah i we really agree that to charge money for the free education is offence but providing free services or info. By any consultancies is not offence.

[everestbear]

By the way, those educational consultancies get paid by colleges in some countries, e.g. USA, UK, Australia etc. to help students get good information about respective colleges (commission based sales but with good faith!) but not in Finland where there is no tuition fee. Talking about Finland, if anybody or any expert or any consultancies provide any info, help, or suggestion to anyone, any student, this shouldn't be a matter of concern but when some crook people (consultancies) lie, deceive, trap vulnerable, straightforward students, then it pisses me off like it does to every fair-minded person. And, the bitter truth is that most consultancies do charge hefty money for their service while fabricating, exaggerating, hiding factual information about Finland (I am focusing on Finland) and this should be discouraged at all cost. If we provide links, suggestions, consequences here for any interested students coming to Finland, we can help students and prevent them from falling in the hands of so-called consultancies. Kittos.

[Hank W.]

yeah i we really agree that to charge money for the free education is offence but providing free services or info

All the information is freely available from Finland.

[sammy]

Talking about Finland, if anybody or any expert or any consultancies provide any info, help, or suggestion to anyone, any student, this shouldn't be a matter of concern but when some crook people (consultancies) lie, deceive, trap vulnerable, straightforward students, then it pisses me off like it does to every fair-minded person.

Well said. There's nothing inherently wrong in using the services of study consultants, if the consultants AND the student customers genuinely know what they are doing. However, I fear this is not often the case, either way. Bedsides: if Nepalese students were loaded with money to start with, consultancies that charge money for their services would somehow be more acceptable. But we know they are not! So charging money for some information that's available for free elsewhere is ...

No offence, infokiec, but the Kathmandu Infosys site just isn't much use at all to any serious prospective Nepalese student looking for info on Finnish education opportunities. Now, I do not know anything about the quality of your actual face-to-face service, or what you charge for it but when we look at how you advise people about studying in Finland, your web site is sh*te - if you pardon me the expression. Stealing the contents from the Finnish Min of Ed site, whilst not providing ANY proper and clear info on such essential issues on how to apply, is just misleading - for example your "application" page http://www.kathmanduinfosys.com/general ... online.php is close to criminal in the sense that it's NOT an on-line application. It's just a way of telling YOU what the student is interested in.

Judging by your website, infokiec, if I were you I would be ashamed to use epithets like "professional" and "expert". Not to mention "Vision" - at least you might have had the sense to include pictures from Finland in your "Finland" photo gallery).

I appreciate your wish to help as such, so please do not take the above criticism personally - but the evidence (ie the web site) seems to go against everything you claim to provide. Clear information - where? Professional advice - where?



PS as a sidenote, the http://www.nepalfinland.com site, while it's more a blog than an information site, at least includes some real information and advice. And it actually gives this piece of advice:

I strongly recommend you NEVER to go to consultancy. What they can do for you is just to post your document from Nepal, which you can do it yourself with very minumum cost as I wrote above. So there is no point for paying them such a large amount of more than a lakh just to send the application. Some consultant may also tell you that they have very close contact or agreement with the university or college for your admission process. But, they are not true. They are just making you fool. They can not do anything during admission process.

[Hank W.]

I actually agreed on the point on that given page. Sorry, I thought it was self-evident that the 'nepalfinland.com' was definitely not a consultancy. My bad.