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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by catchmeifucan » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:17 pm

catchmeifucan wrote:
onkko wrote:My uncle were 49 and papers checked, its how you look.
Check my previous post again. I added some EDIT remarks. :lol: :D
By the way, I don't look weird. But you can say I have taste in what I wear. Don't like the cheap stuff much.



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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:00 pm

catchmeifucan wrote:
catchmeifucan wrote:
onkko wrote:My uncle were 49 and papers checked, its how you look.
Check my previous post again. I added some EDIT remarks. :lol: :D
By the way, I don't look weird. But you can say I have taste in what I wear. Don't like the cheap stuff much.
I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:06 pm

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debonaire wrote: Great...looks like finns are the only people in this world who have undergone the most traumatic,depressing and barbaric phase in their lives...
you deserve all the racism you can get you disrespecting twat. they had one and it happened *here* to *them*. if you dismiss that offhand as if something worse happened elsewhere so then they can dismiss all the racism and whatnot as worse things happen elsewhere.
nice to see you back with full flair Hank...No matter what disguise you take up your writing style and satirical humor will always give you up...
BTW,you can't afford to talk about being a disrespecting twat...Learn to respect others and the favor will be returned to you in kind...you need both hands to clap or else you would soon be slapping your cheeks just to prove you can clap with one hand

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by antstar » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:07 pm

debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
Your making quite a few assumptions there.
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Post by debonaire » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:11 pm

antstar wrote:
debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
Your making quite a few assumptions there.
may be...assumptions they are...but since tiwaz and onkko's post are mostly based on assumptions,i guess it wouldn't hurt if i indulge myself in little assumptions...

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by rinso » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:12 pm

debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
And you know this how?
When you relatively new to this country, don't speak the language and not fully integrated, it is easy to analyse things from a general (international) point of view. But this is Finland, things are done in a different way. Every body know, but nobody tells.

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by antstar » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:13 pm

debonaire wrote:
antstar wrote:
debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
Your making quite a few assumptions there.
may be...assumptions they are...but since tiwaz and onkko's post are mostly based on assumptions,i guess it wouldn't hurt if i indulge myself in little assumptions...
As difficult as it may be you have to try and stay at a certain level. Or as someone said, its turns into mud slinging.
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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:43 pm

antstar wrote: As difficult as it may be you have to try and stay at a certain level. Or as someone said, its turns into mud slinging.
point taken...no assumptions on those lines...but its a little difficult when one tries to stick with the facts and the other throws in a barrage of assumptions...
i can quote reports of such incidents happening recently in finland but i would not like to dwell on those issues at the moment...

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:51 pm

rinso wrote:
debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
And you know this how?
When you relatively new to this country, don't speak the language and not fully integrated, it is easy to analyse things from a general (international) point of view. But this is Finland, things are done in a different way. Every body know, but nobody tells.
Trust me i do know a little bit about it...i don't speak the language that much but i do understand fair bit of it to get away in doing simple things..and i do a lot of socialising...and that too with finns...whom i know..actually they are the only people i know here...and i am also a member of the local football club..
and those things that everybody knows and nobody tells,i am fortunate enough to be aware of them as again my circle revolves around finns...
but you are correct...i was thinking on general lines in that regard and hence i may be wrong...so i take my assumptions back/render invalid for the time being

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by catchmeifucan » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:08 pm

debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
That's the term I was searching for IGNORANT. Thanks, debonaire!!!
I WILL FURTHER EXPLAIN TO OTHERS:
I can understand that fact, that there are not many brown people in Finland. Out of which only a small fraction drinks. That added to the fact will buy a decent wine from Alko is close to impossible :) . I have faced this kind of situations before in other shops. I did not face it next time I visited the same shop rather they were very friendly next time. Basically, it is a dream that almost every Finn has that, every foreigner lives on benefits.
What can I say? I have my utmost sympathies for the IGNORANT ones.
Some one mentioned about knowing the system. Well, it is not about the system. Just that most Finns have not yet met a brown guy who can buy them beer or throw them a launch party just because he felt like celebrating. As a part of my work, I need to understand the culture of all the different nationalities I work with so, it is easier for me to understand. But, frankly I don't expect a local to understand that.
I know it very well this is how it is gonna be and so be it. I don't care about these small things. Time is luxury for me. But, I visit this forum as to have a open conversation which I am ready to have in person but, most of the Finns don't want to have. :lol:
As co-worker as work once mentioned, that his expression was "What that is?" when he first saw me. But, one day I helped him fix a big technical problem and then he felt like telling this to me. He now feels "Se on ruskea mies. Se mun esimies.". Lets see after 10 years what he thinks. :lol:

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:35 pm

catchmeifucan wrote:
debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
That's the term I was searching for IGNORANT. Thanks, debonaire!!!
I WILL FURTHER EXPLAIN TO OTHERS:
I can understand that fact, that there are not many brown people in Finland. Out of which only a small fraction drinks. That added to the fact will buy a decent wine from Alko is close to impossible :) . I have faced this kind of situations before in other shops. I did not face it next time I visited the same shop rather they were very friendly next time. Basically, it is a dream that almost every Finn has that, every foreigner lives on benefits.
What can I say? I have my utmost sympathies for the IGNORANT ones.
Some one mentioned about knowing the system. Well, it is not about the system. Just that most Finns have not yet met a brown guy who can buy them beer or throw them a launch party just because he felt like celebrating. As a part of my work, I need to understand the culture of all the different nationalities I work with so, it is easier for me to understand. But, frankly I don't expect a local to understand that.
I know it very well this is how it is gonna be and so be it. I don't care about these small things. Time is luxury for me. But, I visit this forum as to have a open conversation which I am ready to have in person but, most of the Finns don't want to have. :lol:
As co-worker as work once mentioned, that his expression was "What that is?" when he first saw me. But, one day I helped him fix a big technical problem and then he felt like telling this to me. He now feels "Se on ruskea mies. Se mun esimies.". Lets see after 10 years what he thinks. :lol:
and i was thinking the same thing...that most of the finns think that foreigners live on benefits(thats a lot,isn't it) and especially if there is some brown guy buying something expensive,its gotta be a mistake...how on earth its possible...and thats why i used the term ignorance...as most of them do not know anything much beyond EU...especially about Asia...but lets wait and see how Asia is going to transform the world in a decade as this century truly belongs to Asia...
but again i say that my earlier comment was based on assumptions...so taht it doesn't offend anyone

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by antstar » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:41 pm

i am personally intrigued how Asia is going to transform the world? Maybe we need to start a new thread about this, i am all for learning about future events, maybe i need to purchase some shares.
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Post by rinso » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:56 pm

debonaire wrote: Trust me i do know a little bit about it...i don't speak the language that much but i do understand fair bit of it to get away in doing simple things..and i do a lot of socialising...and that too with finns...whom i know..actually they are the only people i know here...and i am also a member of the local football club..
and those things that everybody knows and nobody tells,i am fortunate enough to be aware of them as again my circle revolves around finns...
I am amazed. I live here much longer than you, I speak some of the language (even the local lingo :twisted: ), almost all my contacts are with Finns, I participate in their events (they even made me chairman of one of their activities) and still I discover new things all the time. Especially this forum is a great source of information about the way Finns think.

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:51 pm

antstar wrote:i am personally intrigued how Asia is going to transform the world?
they fornicate too much... then again in china theres now a huge problem they have about 130 boys to 100 girls, so eventually the population will even out.
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Something wicked this way comes."

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:56 pm

debonaire wrote:Learn to respect others
don't give me lip or I won't buy your kebab
"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."


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