debonaire wrote:
Typical dishwash....I completely understand and am so moved by your sentiments that i will immediately put in my papers,pack up my bags and take the next available flight home...
Actually, it is painful truth. Which we see when we look how you have been here how many years and speak little to no finnish?
How you think it would be A-OK to have doctors serving finnish patients without ability to communicate. That it should be responsibility of FINNS in their native country to appease these foreign doctors.
Or do I remember wrong idiot here? You all sound so alike.
Let me tell you something...whether you understand or not depends on your attitude...I reckon you do realise that Finland is not a part of any other planet and immigrants are not martians who are hell bent on destroying your culture and your existence...You do know that finland is a part of global community and as such follows the global norms...If you really think you need to protect your culture from vulturous looking immigrants then seriously urge your government to stop being a part of the global community and remain in isolation....don't buy anything other than finnish and remain isolated in your wonderland which would surely protect your culture,identity and existence from us immigrant barbarians...On one hand you have no problems enjoying the benefits of globalisation but on the other hand,you completely refuse to deal with its side effects....Now you can't have your cake and eat it too...
Immigrants are not finns either. If they do not integrate and become more finnish, they will remain alien too.
And yes, Finland needs to protect it's culture. Because immigrants are all too eager to have their ways imposed upon us. Like those english speaking doctors...
I,as an immigrant,has come here to work and to gain international exposure...at the same time my stay in Finland provides me with an opportunity to learn about your culture...I respect finnishness and finnish culture but at the same time I expect you to respect mine...I don't drink and i don't eat beef...shall i start drinking and eating beef simply to integrate myself in the finnish society...Hell No...Why shall i throw away my culture just to appease you and other conservative finns...As much as you are proud of your own culture so am I...as for learning the language I am trying my best to cope with it.Do you really think that your culture is so weak and rigid that it feels threatened by the presence of immigrants? I am pretty sure that finnish culture is quite rich,diverse and flexible to withstand any ill effects of immigration and absorb it accordingly...
You fail to remember that we have this far very few immigrants. And even those are already problematic in terms of criminal activity.
It would be horrible mess if there were more unintegrating immigrants.
I am not going to listen to your poop talk because you are not a superior human being than I am...I think you care peanuts about the welfare of your own country...you would let it rot that rather take the help of immigrants in contributing to the economy...You are being dangerously patriotic, actually being fanatic with your anti immigration views....I think cultural integrity is just a disguise to suit your policies of narrow mindedness..well you are entitled to your opinions however stupying they are and i am not going to stop you even if you go around messing with your country.I am sure other like minded natives would succeessfully reign you...
Actually, I care a lot about my country. I love it, would die to defend it. And I call immigration threat to finnish culture if it is.
Immigrants who contribute to economy, welcome. But only on finnish terms, and with integration to society. Leeches and giltarsed immigrants expecting us to bend over backwards to appease their cultural norms, sod off.
You keep citing France ,Germany and UK as a nightmare of immigration policies...Still those countries are more propesrous and developed than Finland...Those countries still rank higher than Finland in the minds of prospective immigrants...Immigration has played a vital roles in the advancemets of these countries and has contributed immensely in their economies...US is not the richest and the most powerful country for no reason and still ranks as the number one choice for any immigrant...Immigration also has its drawbacks and you need to deal with it...You don't go on counting and bitching about the bad eggs while neglecting the good ones....Time has showed again and again that the benefits of immigration far outweighs the ill effects associated with it..
Actually, have you read history? Germany, UK and France grew big and prosperous WITHOUT immigration. Their history is nearly completely one where natives formed huge majority and immigrants who wanted to live with them had to integrate.
Large immigrant movement is for all three rather recent thing, and so it happens to, of course purely coincidentally, take place before times when social problems have started to grow.
USA again lacks cultural identity. It is mixture without common heritage, common culture, common just about everything. It's a mess.
It is completely different from old and estabilished societies with estabilished culture, tradition and heritage.
USA is richest country because they were lucky enough to be in first world when WW2 hit, and were only such nation to survive without any attacks on it's soil. Which again containes huge amount of natural resources and large area.
USA failing to become prosperous under such ideal conditions would have been miracle, not it becoming.
And I am speaking of dealing with bad things of immigration. Make immigrants either integrate or get out. Good apples stay, learn to speak and behave in finnish way and rest get out.
Only when we do not make immigrants integrate we open door for bad eggs.
I don't think that finnish culture is so weak that it could not accommodate the needs of immigrants instead of feeling threatened by them...Coexistence is the key word...
Coexist if you want. But in Finland, by finnish terms and rules.
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