chances of Indian Dentist getting some job in Helsinki

naval_khera · Post by **naval_khera** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:53 pm

Hi

Want to know chances of Indian dentist (Bachelor Dental Sciences) with around 2-2.5 years of experience getting a job in Helsinki in Dental clinics etc.

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Richard · Post by **Richard** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:13 pm

I would guess next to nothing, assuming you don't speak Finnish. It is after all a job where you would deal direct with customers.

interleukin · Post by **interleukin** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:17 pm

I guess if you were prepared to open your own clinic and somehow managed to get a large enough base of foreigners as customers... but it sounds really unlikely since Finnish dentists speak perfect English also so there is no reason not to go to them.
Also, you would have to look at getting the denti'stry degree accepted in Finland. I dont know what the details are, but it seems unlikely that you would be allowed to work as a dentist here without going through the proper channels.

MagicJ · Post by **MagicJ** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:42 pm

interleukin wrote: since Finnish dentists speak perfect English

No they don't, i've been to two (in Töölö and Kluuvi) who spoke reasonable enough english to exchange pleasantries but struggled to find terms such as root canal or didn't bother to explain what they were doing because it was too difficult for them to say. One didn't bother to explain that the medication he put in my tooth would cause me severe pain which developed overnight, i couldn't think straight or sleep. At all. And had to cancel some work the next day to go and find out (from a different dentist) what the other dentist had done to me.

OP: I have no knowledge of the dentistry market and my suggestion that Finnish dentists don't speak excellent english is not evidence that you should jump on a plane and expect a full diary of grumpy english speaking patients.

interleukin · Post by **interleukin** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:43 pm

Hmm... I guess I have just been lucky then with the ones I have been to.

maurine · Post by **maurine** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:59 pm

yes you can work as Dentist in Finland, but, you must

1. prove of education of health-care professionals and recognised degrees.
2. since you are not from EU or EEA you have to meet/prove language-proficiency requirements
3. Also Doctors from outside the EU or EEA, in order to receive a licence to practise medicine in Finland, have to receive practical training and pass a three-part examination that includes questions relating to administration, legislation, and clinical medicine, and a practical section testing the individual’s ability to cope with normal clinical tuations.
There is also a language test.
4. Licences are granted stagewise.The initial licence is valid only for hospital work. It can subsequently be extended to cover health-centre work, then work in other institutions and in private practice. Licences are always granted for specific periods of time. If a holder of an extended licence is granted Finnish citizenship, the National Authority for Medicolegal Affairs can authorize her or him to practise medicine independently as a licensed physician.

5. All doctors and dentists need sickness insurance numbers.These can be obtained
from the Social Insurance Institution after a licence has been granted.

6. Everyone coming to Finland from abroad to work must obtain a residence permit if her or his employment is to last longer than three months.The permit is granted by the police department in the place of residence.Citizens of EU member states do not need work permits.

7. must obtain a residence permit.

One thing i am sure about is that you must know how to write and speak Finnish fluently.

you can also check it yourself http://www.residency-database.helmsic.gr/Finland

rinso · Post by **rinso** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:12 am

a: you must get a licence before you can (apply for) work
b: you must speak Finnish to get a licence
c: you need a residence permit before you can come
d: you need a job before you get a RP.
Kind of catch 22.

Cloudberry · Post by **Cloudberry** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:49 pm

interleukin wrote:I guess if you were prepared to open your own clinic and somehow managed to get a large enough base of foreigners as customers... but it sounds really unlikely since Finnish dentists speak perfect English also so there is no reason not to go to them.

I vaguely recall someone looking for an Indian dentist earlier in the year...

So there's at least one potential customer

Cloudberry · Post by **Cloudberry** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:54 pm

Oh, cancel that. I just found the old post, it was an Indian doctor they were seeking

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:40 pm

Well I was teaming up with an Indian dentist at the pub quiz, so it can be done. Of course he spoke Finnish and been studying here etc. but it isn't *impossible*. Only he didn't just land plop like that and become a dentist overnight...

finlandforumuser · Post by **finlandforumuser** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:03 pm

rinso wrote:a: you must get a licence before you can (apply for) work
b: you must speak Finnish to get a licence
c: you need a residence permit before you can come
d: you need a job before you get a RP.
Kind of catch 22.

You writing stupid thing. There are enough non-Finnish speaking doctors around. From formal standpoint no need "must speak Finnish", to get workpermit it is not required at all.

interleukin · Post by **interleukin** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:12 pm

Obviously one does not need to be able to write in English to post on this forum either.

Pursuivant · Post by **Pursuivant** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:47 pm

Technically, you don't need to speak Finnish, if you are an EU-trained and licenced doctor due to the freedom of movement etc.,. Getting a job might prove slightly challenging.

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:57 pm

Pursuivant wrote:Well I was teaming up with an Indian dentist at the pub quiz, so it can be done. Of course he spoke Finnish and been studying here etc. but it isn't *impossible*. Only he didn't just land plop like that and become a dentist overnight...

Yeh!! he has been here for a decade or more...and struggled to get certified...but eventually he did...

maurine · Post by **maurine** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:16 pm

finlandforumuser wrote:
rinso wrote:a: you must get a licence before you can (apply for) work
b: you must speak Finnish to get a licence
c: you need a residence permit before you can come
d: you need a job before you get a RP.
Kind of catch 22.
You writing stupid thing. There are enough non-Finnish speaking doctors around. From formal standpoint no need "must speak Finnish", to get workpermit it is not required at all.

of course there are non-Finnish speaking doctors. but they dont get jobs only to treat non-Finnish speakers. language requirement is important. after all 80% of the population are Finnish. just common sense

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