Calling all the unemployed in Helsinki to work!!!

[antar]

Hello!

My name is Cesar, I am unemployed and I am tired of applying and getting negative replies. It am so impressed by the story of the Rumanian guy in the forum, because it's so similar to mine!

So I have had an idea. I will explain it to you. Later on I will tell you a little bit about who I am and why I decided to do this.

My idea: very simple. If we don't have jobs, let's create them! Finnish find it hard to get a job, foreigners very often imposible, and it just does not make any sense to me. If people spend money, and the economy has to go up, people need to be given money. If there are no jobs, how can we get that money??? But still there are many companies working and they make a profit. And services are expensive in this country, so is food, so are so many things. Don't you think, if these companies can do it for that high price, we can do it for less???
We are in the European Union, we have a common market, and you how things are cheaper down there!

The point is creating a cooperative company, with the help of all the unemployed people (who are mostly foreigners but also some Finnish). Many of us are really qualified, we are smart, also brave enough to live in another country, we speak languages (even some Finnish!), we have skills... And WE-CAN-WORK!!!

If we get together, we could create something like a services company, offering cleaning, babysitting, cooking! (there is such a big need for cooks!) with foreign countries specialties, PR services, advertising, international consultancy... it's all up to what you can think of!You can add your own ideas.

How can we start? We should get together in a place and talk to each other, to find out what we can do. Then we could meet physically and actually start working.
I have created this facebook group: "Create your own job in Helsinki", so I invite you to join it!!!


An important thing to remember is that this is not going to be my company, it is a COOPERATIVE COMPANY, so that the benefits of it will go to all the workers. We will find a suitable juridic form to incorporate it.

Well, right now, I have to go to the supermarket to spend my money's buying food... maybe you too do. So what are we waiting for to get that money back???

[EP]

We will find a suitable juridic form to incorporate it.

It is OSUUSKUNTA in Finnish.

http://www.yrittajat.fi/en-GB/

[antar]

Of course, we will look for all the help we can. People are already showing interest in it, but remember - you dont need an MBA to join.

Just will to work! I have a masters in international management and never used for anything. Time to start!

[kalmisto]

antar

Here is an inpiring true story ( in English,of course )from Finland for you :
http://www.aviomiespalvelu.fi/lehti/boston.doc

Aviomiespalvelu ( Husband Service ) home page in English :
http://www.aviomiespalvelu.fi/english.html

[jazzori]

Here is an inpiring true story ( in English,of course )from Finland for you :
http://www.aviomiespalvelu.fi/lehti/boston.doc

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[kalmisto]

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What does that mean ?

[jazzori]

It's a heart. I enjoyed the article!

[PenelopeH]

I enjoyed it too

[ajdias]

The guy is smart, he registered "avomiespalvelu -vaimo" and is now charging other people to work as such and be listed on his webpages.

Those who have marketable skills could perhaps contact the guy, although some Finnish ladies my get the wrong idea if they get a foreigner to do their "husband-service"

I pasted the linked .doc article bellow so that you don't need to open an external application (at least here it opens as a word document)

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What does that mean ?

Teen speak... for an entertaining time waister see OMG WWII on FacebooK

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• Don't borrow trouble with `rental' hubby
  
  
  
  
  I have to admit that I don't know much about Finland. For instance, when I think of Finland, I tend to think about pizza. Not because Finland has anything to do with pizza - I'm just hungry.
  
  However, a recent development in Finland has piqued my interest. According to a Reuters story, a gentleman named Petteri Ikonen has found great success marketing himself as a ``rent-a-husband.'' After careful consideration, I've decided that this is a bad thing, particularly for those men whose wives might have good reason to rent a husband. We know who we are.
  
  It would be troubling enough if Ikonen just performed home repair duties, which admittedly could come in handy. I know in my case, the handy gene skipped a generation: Whereas my father would stare at, say, broken appliances until he understood their inner workings well enough to fix them, I tend to stare at them in the hopes that they eventually will be fixed by the power of The Force.
  
  But Ikonen apparently is also taking on other husbandly duties, such as mowing, picture-hanging and even parenting. ``I've given driving lessons, I've sung a birthday serenade, all sorts of things,'' he told Reuters, adding that he's a good rent-a-husband because he's ``all that a typical good Finnish husband is - sensitive and tender.'' I take issue with this on several levels: For one, we U.S. husbands are just as sensitive and tender as any of those Finnish husbands. And second, if some Finnish guy ever tries to touch one of our lawnmowers, we'll beat the Helsinki out of him.
  
  I suppose the rent-a-husband concept makes sense for single women; in fact, I'm sure there are plenty of wives who, had they known they could rent a husband for the important things, like picture-hanging, would have stayed single. However, apparently the Finnish business caters to its fair share of families with husbands already in place. This defies the natural order of things - it's like a monkey paying another monkey to pick bugs off his girlfriend.
  
  Concerned, I checked out the rent-a-husband Web site (aviomiespalvelu.net), which, disturbingly, is entirely in Finnish, or whatever the commensurate language would be over there. But judging from the pictures of Ikonen and his equipment, I can only assume it says something like, ``If you need a real husband, one with a big red toolbox, I'm the guy for you!'' We can only hope they're not big on metaphor over there in Finland.
  
  In fact, in addition to being sensitive and tender, it appears that Ikonen is also blond, with rippling muscles and a tight, red shirt - sort of like a cross between Dolph Lundgren and Murray from The Wiggles. Granted, he's careful to stress that ``I don't sell sex services at all,'' but if I were a Finnish husband whose wife called me up at work and said, ``I found somebody to fix the disposal - and he doesn't sell sex services at all!'' I'd be thinking I probably should be on the next train home.
  
  Fact is, it's important to husbands that we feel we're doing all the things husbands are supposed to do, such as driving places without asking for directions, killing large insects with shoes and honing the sensory deficiency that allows us not to notice when we've left tiny hairs in the bathroom sink. And I certainly wouldn't want a rental husband teaching my kids to drive or singing them happy birthday. So I guess the fact that I could be supplanted by someone who charges by the hour is probably a good motivator to work hard at being the best husband possible.
  
  Not that I won't keep trying to use The Force first. You never know.
  
  Copyright 2004 Boston Herald Inc.

[antar]

Hello again!

Today I have more time, I will tell you a bit about my story and why I think we should take the initiative: I studied IT in Spain, with an exchange year in the UK. After that, I did got into an international traineeship program sponsored by the Spanish foreign trade agency, which included a free masters degree in one of the best business schools. I worked in Ukraine for the government and I learnt Russian pretty well, so supposedly my career was going to be bright. Spain was a country which had improved hugely in the last decade and we started to consider ourselves to be in the richest club. When I came back to Madrid, after a couple of months I managed to find a decent job in one big Spanish technology multinational company. It was extremely boring, I was not given any work and after a few months, they fired me arguing that they did not need me. Sounds familiar to anyone?

Then I tried to emigrate to Switzerland, to the French part. Bad idea, there were no jobs. I one month I got a call and they told me my French was not good enough (not good enough to talk on the phone, enough to be a waiter, for sure!). Then I tried England. I knew the country, I speak the language really well, so why shouldn't I be able to work? Well, it was at the height of the credit crunch, and in two months I only managed to work 4 days as a waiter. Not enough customers, they said.

Then I was forced to go back to Spain, to my mother's. There I studied even more, another masters, but it turned out that after it we were not rich anymore. Salaries were coming down, unemployment was on the rise, and the poor Romanians, whom Spanish people treated with contempt, started to go back home. And I even met Spanish architect who study Romanian because it's one of the few places where they can still find work.

As of me, I started studying Finnish and very soon came to Finland. A few months later, most of young people in Spain are desperate. There are just no jobs. Construction stopped, tourism is falling sharply and industry is loosing competitiveness. Government is just useless - no crisis for politicians. Now Spanish people, the former new rich, see their university-educated children go to England to look for any dirty job with their degrees in hand. But in England there are not enough jobs for them. Neither there are in France, Italy, Germany... a bit humiliating, isn't it?

So does any person from a wealthy country think himself/herself better than a poor Spanish, Bulgarian, Romanian, Estonian, Russian...? Sorry for him, because if one day he needs in the need to emigrate, he's going to experience a big shock! When you have no friends and family, you do not know the language, and people just don't trust you because you are foreign, the world is seen under a different light.

And just think it this way: if your country is rich, it is not because of your individual effort. If my country has been ruined, please understand I did not do it. Those who did it, have great jobs as politicians and bankers, and they do not have to emigrate. Those are the ones that would only come to spend money in big hotels, and you'd be happy about it.

To be honest to you, one of the reasons to come to Finland is because I am good with hard languages and I thought it would be easier in a place where there are less people from my country. But the most important reason to come here instead of, say, Norway, it's because I have a long-term business project for which this is the best place. Because Russia is so near. That's it: I CAME HERE TO CREATE RICHNESS and fortunately, this is still the European Union and any European has the right to do it. Because the EU is not about being rich, it is about values and freedom.

Still, same as most unemployed people around, particularly like those who don't get support from Kela, I just can't wait to get some money coming in. And because I can do really little on my own, I decided to find other people in my situation.

Please, join!

[Pursuivant]

But in England there are not enough jobs for them. Neither there are in France, Italy, Germany... a bit humiliating, isn't it?

Yes and guess what? There ain't so many jobs here either. We didn't hit the slump quite as drastically as Spain, but the youth unemployment figures here are starting to be concerning. Its not "bad" though as it was in the 90's, IT business is actually showing some positive signs, but you need to find the niche, as always.

[hackoff]

Good experience , so when you go back to your home country you´d tell how hard it is to be a foreigner !

[Finsoninlaw]

[quote="antar"]Hello!

My name is Cesar, I am unemployed and I am tired of applying and getting negative replies. It am so impressed by the story of the Rumanian guy in the forum, because it's so similar to mine!

So I have had an idea. I will explain it to you. Later on I will tell you a little bit about who I am and why I decided to do this.

My idea: very simple. If we don't have jobs, let's create them! Finnish find it hard to get a job, foreigners very often imposible, and it just does not make any sense to me. If people spend money, and the economy has to go up, people need to be given money. If there are no jobs, how can we get that money??? But still there are many companies working and they make a profit. And services are expensive in this country, so is food, so are so many things. Don't you think, if these companies can do it for that high price, we can do it for less???
We are in the European Union, we have a common market, and you how things are cheaper down there!

The point is creating a cooperative company, with the help of all the unemployed people (who are mostly foreigners but also some Finnish). Many of us are really qualified, we are smart, also brave enough to live in another country, we speak languages (even some Finnish!), we have skills... And WE-CAN-WORK!!!

If we get together, we could create something like a services company, offering cleaning, babysitting, cooking! (there is such a big need for cooks!) with foreign countries specialties, PR services, advertising, international consultancy... it's all up to what you can think of!You can add your own ideas.

How can we start? We should get together in a place and talk to each other, to find out what we can do. Then we could meet physically and actually start working.
I have created this facebook group: "Create your own job in Helsinki", so I invite you to join it!!!


An important thing to remember is that this is not going to be my company, it is a COOPERATIVE COMPANY, so that the benefits of it will go to all the workers. We will find a suitable juridic form to incorporate it.

Well, right now, I have to go to the supermarket to spend my money's buying food... maybe you too do. So what are we waiting for to get that money back


When things begin to spiral downward, successful folks make the appropriate corrections.

[antar]

Hi!

I am getting very positive replies from different people, in a situation of need, so that makes me believe this idea is right.

Of course the employment situation here is not good either, so it makes sense we do something to change it. Many Finnish people are unemployed, but that does not mean that foreigners are going to "steal jobs". Economy just does not work that way. You need the right people for the right job, regardless of where they are from. This is the mindset that created huge companies like Nokia. The more worker mobility there will be within the EU, the more competitive we will be in relation to the USA, for instance.

I don't understand some of the comments - but you will understand this: there is only one way. UP.

[luckykitty]

Speaking of that Aviomiespalvelu, there are no women there listed for Helsinki.
"Rent a wife/husband" sounds a bit dodgy in English, I thought it sounded like one of those services where someone goes on a date with a handsome man or women and pretends its their wife or husband .

But it's always a good idea to start a business, if you know what skills you have, and that you can do things with better service and competitive price, and you know there is a market for your service. A lot of people have skills in their field, but running a business is about viability and functioning, making sure you can pay your taxes and expenses and still make a profit. Taxes are quite high here , but so are prices, so its maybe more about reaching the market and for people to have some faith in your services.