Obtaining Work Permit through Wife's Study Permit

[wal83]

Hello all,

My wife is applying to a Masters program at Aalto University. Once she gets a study visa and an RP, will I be able to apply for a work permit through her visa? We're non EU citizens.

Also, study permits are valid for 1 year, while her programme's duration is 2 years, would my work permit be for 1 year only as well?

Thank you for your time.

BR,
W.

[Upphew]

Hello all,

My wife is applying to a Masters program at Aalto University. Once she gets a study visa and an RP, will I be able to apply for a work permit through her visa? We're non EU citizens.

Also, study permits are valid for 1 year, while her programme's duration is 2 years, would my work permit be for 1 year only as well?

Thank you for your time.

BR,
W.

www.migri.fi
Short version: he reason for RP are work, study, family. They each (may) have restrictions on working and requirements to get one. Your options are most likely family and study, in that order.

[uhri85]

First, your wife should get a residence permit (visa is only for tourists). Once she gets, you can apply on the basis of 'family ties' and you guys should have sufficient income/or money in your bank account (for both around 14000€/year). Your wife will get a B permit and you will also get a B. Your residence permit will be dependent on your wife's. However, even though you have a B permit you can work full-time if you find a job. Your wife can work 25 hours/week during studies and full time during summer. The only bad thing about B permit is that you are not covered by welfare benefits, but when you get a full time job, you can in-fact change your B permit to A permit as well. For non-EU nationals, getting residence permit on the basis of a spouse studying in Finland is not that easy, but you can always try. There are people who have made it.

Reference: my own experience with immigration issues in Finland for nearly 8 years.

[wal83]

Thank you uhri85 and Upphew.

urhi85, is it a similar process if I would like to start my own business instead of looking for a job?

Thank you,
W.

[cors187]

Thank you uhri85 and Upphew.

urhi85, is it a similar process if I would like to start my own business instead of looking for a job?

Thank you,
W.

You will find it almost impossible to get a self employed res-permit if your not already-
1) have your own company now in a specific business field
2) have pre contract deals in Finland within your field of expertise.
3) Sufficient capital for the proposals or a outlined plan to achieve capital for the pre-contracts
4) An over all business plan that includes strict adherence to the legislation of Finland.


Next is the employment res-permit which you need a contract from a legal company.
The easiest res-permit is the family ties res-permit, your student spouse needs money, but a part-time job(contract) that complements her study will be of great benefit.

[uhri85]

Wal83, do not think of starting business before even coming to Finland. If you do not have millions of euros, or if you do not represent a multinational company, they will reject you for sure. But once you are in Finland, you can, of course start a small business, a small shop, restaurant or cafe. That's perfectly Okey and there is a lot of support for entrepreneurs here. The tricky thing for you is to get a residence permit first. Make genuine documents and apply under family ties, you can get it. I know a couple of people from non-EU region, even from Pakistan, who have got B family ties permits. If they reject, just appeal to admin court. It takes some time, but if you can put your arguments well, and have fulfil the basic requirements, you can get it. Even if that fails, then wait until your wife graduates and gets a full-time job. Then you will get for sure.

[cors187]

will I be able to apply for a work permit through her visa? We're non EU citizens.

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The strangest problem i have seen is that anyone with schengen EU citizenship can be classed as non offensive to the economy, and therefore no mol.fi restrictions.
A non EU is classed as an economical threat and they will be tested according to legislation about their worthiness to be employed here.

Taking out of the equation the critical religious, the criminally insane and the oppressive family generators(which includes oppressing woman), i think most NON EU foreigners take more care of their opportunity and therefore return more to the opportunity(ie Finland)

[abg]

When you talk about 'discrimination' to NON EU, you are missing one important detail. Finnish laws in this regard are harmonized with other EU countries, the same opportunity levelling field exists across EU countries to citizens of other EU countries, since these countries signed up the treaties when EU was created and joined by the countries. Think about whole EU more or less as a single country with this regard.

You are better to get your residence permit on family ties, which should be easy if you were living together at least two years prior to her getting to Finland. After you are in Finland, as a spouse of a person with a residence permit, you'll have no work field limitation and will be able to initiate your own business, among other opportunities.

[wal83]

You guys have been awesome.

Cheers and many thanks for the help!!

[cors187]

When you talk about 'discrimination' to NON EU, you are missing one important detail. Finnish laws in this regard are harmonized with other EU countries, the same opportunity levelling field exists across EU countries to citizens of other EU countries, since these countries signed up the treaties when EU was created and joined by the countries. Think about whole EU more or less as a single country with this regard.

No one is discriminated against, its offensive because we are often better than the locals in Europe.
There is no important detail i am missing!

Think about whole EU more or less as a single country with this regard.

That country doesn't exist either.

[uhri85]

You are better to get your residence permit on family ties, which should be easy if you were living together at least two years prior to her getting to Finland.

There is no 2 year thing for married couples. That's for cohabited partners. If you are married, that's all. Your common language, age gap, authenticity of marriage are important though. In addition, your marriage certificate must be certified by the MoFA of your country and also the nearest Finnish embassy.

Reference: my wife got residence permit after only a few months of our wedding.

[Liam1]

No one is discriminated against, its offensive because we are often better than the locals in Europe

While it conjures up a funny image, immigration isn't like the local squash club "ladder" where you can challenge a local and if you are better than them you can swap places!!!

Think about whole EU more or less as a single country with this regard.
That country doesn't exist either.

I guess that's why he wrote think about whole EU more or less as rather than the Eu is one country. i.e. it acts with one common outside border and theoretical little or no inside borders.

[cors187]

No one is discriminated against, its offensive because we are often better than the locals in Europe

While it conjures up a funny image, immigration isn't like the local squash club "ladder" where you can challenge a local and if you are better than them you can swap places!!!

Actually emigration is exactly like playing on the "other" teams courts and trying to get a good ranking.Challenging the local champion seems to happen as a consequence .

I guess that's why he wrote think about whole EU more or less as rather than the Eu is one country. i.e. it acts with one common outside border and theoretical little or no inside borders.

I was under the impression that each country can add extra legislation to their Employment borders?.