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Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by network_engineer » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:19 pm

Hi all,

Might need some new summer tyres soon, at least that's what I think.

Any opinions on retreading the existing set of tyres? I know the service itself is available, but are they good/ safe at high speeds as well? Or could they lead to a blowout?

How long will the the retreaded tyres last?

Our should I just get a new set?

Any insights greatly appreciated!



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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by Upphew » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:44 pm

network_engineer wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:19 pm
Hi all,

Might need some new summer tyres soon, at least that's what I think.

Any opinions on retreading the existing set of tyres? I know the service itself is available, but are they good/ safe at high speeds as well? Or could they lead to a blowout?

How long will the the retreaded tyres last?

Our should I just get a new set?

Any insights greatly appreciated!
Car? You'll get new or "new" set. No way I'd wait for same tyres to be refreshed.
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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by riku2 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:43 pm

I would order a new set from some online shop like https://www.rengas-online.com/
Since your life depends on the tires I would never consider retreads - perhaps if you live on a large farm and are only using the car to drive around the fields they would be ok but certainly not on public roads faster than 30km/h.

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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by network_engineer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:41 pm

Thanks a lot riku2 and Upphew! I agree, I'll just simply go for a new set, especially since I drive the motorway daily!

Thanks for the help! :)

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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by Piet » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:57 pm

network_engineer wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:41 pm
Thanks a lot riku2 and Upphew! I agree, I'll just simply go for a new set, especially since I drive the motorway daily!

Thanks for the help! :)
You could go for second hand winter tires that are missing too much spikes, take the rest out and you have most likely sufficient threaded tires for the summer (I am going to do the same as soon as my current summer tires are below 2mm) I have a set of perfect undamaged winter tires from what almost all spikes have broken off the top, just take them out with special pliers and save 400€.


That said, it will result in more noisy drive and higher fuel consumption compared to a set of new "michelin green" tires. But on a yearly base, still cheaper than a new set of tires and they are even better when it gets very wet on the road. :wink:
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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by vla » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:20 am

network_engineer wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:41 pm
Thanks a lot riku2 and Upphew! I agree, I'll just simply go for a new set, especially since I drive the motorway daily!

Thanks for the help! :)
For me it's very simple: Does my life worth more than saving €400, €500, or whatever the tires cost?. Answer is very simple. Do you have kids? Family? Put them in the equation too.

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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by Upphew » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:14 pm

Piet wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:57 pm
That said, it will result in more noisy drive and higher fuel consumption compared to a set of new "michelin green" tires. But on a yearly base, still cheaper than a new set of tires and they are even better when it gets very wet on the road. :wink:
Dunno how the situation is now, but bit over decade ago old winter tyre with 5mm of tread was as bad with water planing as summer tyre with 1,6mm of tread... https://www.kaleva.fi/teemat/moottori/t ... na/104562/
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Re: Retreading tyres, opinions?

Post by Piet » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:09 am

Upphew wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:14 pm
Piet wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:57 pm
That said, it will result in more noisy drive and higher fuel consumption compared to a set of new "michelin green" tires. But on a yearly base, still cheaper than a new set of tires and they are even better when it gets very wet on the road. :wink:
Dunno how the situation is now, but bit over decade ago old winter tyre with 5mm of tread was as bad with water planing as summer tyre with 1,6mm of tread... https://www.kaleva.fi/teemat/moottori/t ... na/104562/
I guess it greatly depends on the cross grooves of the tires: is it able to let the water flow sideways or is it only cut for friction.
As the news article says, a winter tire is not better than a summer tire due to the different profile that focusses on friction instead of water flow sideways.
Therefore not every winter tire is suitable for use in summer.
The difference can be seen most clearly when comparing pictures of the profile of summer tires, winter tires and all season tires.
when comparing these you can see a distinct difference in the shape and width of the cross grooves... for summer use, make sure you use tires with wide cross grooves which are diagonal from the centre to the side.
(And this is not taking in account the difference in rubber compound yet, which is significantly of influence too)


Personally I have good experience with goodyear for summer use and bad with gislaved, while the winter use was the other way around, the gislaved had more friction cut surface (the very small parallel grooves you cannot fit a coin in) but less wide grooves, therefore better friction in winter on snow but very bad water draining capabilities.

But all that said, of course a slick (race) tire will work best on dry asphalt,
a deep cut rain tire will work best on wet asphalt
and a friction (winter) tire will work best in winter.

It all depends greatly on your driving style and how you adapt it knowing your tires in relation to the weather.
Common sense I would say.

In other words, don't try to be mika hakkinen on winter tires on a hot summers day with a sudden flood rain..and a car full of passengers 8)
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