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No_doo
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by No_doo » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:20 pm

karhu86 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:38 pm
any good news from the 2022 people
Still waiting, 22 months now.



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oct.2023.RU.IT
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by oct.2023.RU.IT » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm

I'm happy to announce that I got my citizenship!

I was very worried about processing time because I came without a residence permit and applied for one in Finland. My previous experience with Migri had been very disappointing and unfair, so I thought I would be one of those who would have to wait for years. We also had many (maybe 20-30) short trips around the world, but no trips longer than 30 days. I applied for citizenship a little earlier, then 4 years requirement was fulfilled (3 month earlier).
But my husband came with type A residence permit in Feb 2019.
We are both highly paid Software Developers, no Kela support, no criminal records.

Arrived to Finland: June 2019
Got study based B permit: October 2019
Got work based A permit: May 2020
Applied for citizenship: 19.10.2023, no need to visit service point
Application moved to stage 2: 15.04.2024
Got decision: 16.04.2024


My husband applied the same day, but was obliged to visit. He proved his identity on 24.10 and our applications were linked. After that we got diary numbers. My diary number was 13118 and his was 13233. My husband got his decision some minutes later than me.
27 y.o female, C++ developer

kriffer
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by kriffer » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:43 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm
I'm happy to announce that I got my citizenship!

Congratulations, really great news!!! :-D :beer_yum:

fingol
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by fingol » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:04 pm

I don't get that priority !"#¤% in decision-making. When our applications are piled up from 2022 they spend their resources to process new applications faster. Then "somehow" estimated processing times approach 30 months. What a clown world.

just_passing_by
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:05 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm
I'm happy to announce that I got my citizenship!
Congratulations!
Now I am again the only one in charge of statistics data :)

curiousVK
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by curiousVK » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:22 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm
I'm happy to announce that I got my citizenship!

I was very worried about processing time because I came without a residence permit and applied for one in Finland. My previous experience with Migri had been very disappointing and unfair, so I thought I would be one of those who would have to wait for years. We also had many (maybe 20-30) short trips around the world, but no trips longer than 30 days. I applied for citizenship a little earlier, then 4 years requirement was fulfilled (3 month earlier).
But my husband came with type A residence permit in Feb 2019.
We are both highly paid Software Developers, no Kela support, no criminal records.

Arrived to Finland: June 2019
Got study based B permit: October 2019
Got work based A permit: May 2020
Applied for citizenship: 19.10.2023, no need to visit service point
Application moved to stage 2: 15.04.2024
Got decision: 16.04.2024


My husband applied the same day, but was obliged to visit. He proved his identity on 24.10 and our applications were linked. After that we got diary numbers. My diary number was 13118 and his was 13233. My husband got his decision some minutes later than me.

Congratulations :)
would you mind sharing what was your queue number when you got the decision?

kunglao
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by kunglao » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:57 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm
I'm happy to announce that I got my citizenship!

I was very worried about processing time because I came without a residence permit and applied for one in Finland. My previous experience with Migri had been very disappointing and unfair, so I thought I would be one of those who would have to wait for years. We also had many (maybe 20-30) short trips around the world, but no trips longer than 30 days. I applied for citizenship a little earlier, then 4 years requirement was fulfilled (3 month earlier).
But my husband came with type A residence permit in Feb 2019.
We are both highly paid Software Developers, no Kela support, no criminal records.

Arrived to Finland: June 2019
Got study based B permit: October 2019
Got work based A permit: May 2020
Applied for citizenship: 19.10.2023, no need to visit service point
Application moved to stage 2: 15.04.2024
Got decision: 16.04.2024


My husband applied the same day, but was obliged to visit. He proved his identity on 24.10 and our applications were linked. After that we got diary numbers. My diary number was 13118 and his was 13233. My husband got his decision some minutes later than me.
Congratulations! 🎉🎉

Uskomaton
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Uskomaton » Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:35 pm

fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:04 pm
I don't get that priority !"#¤% in decision-making. When our applications are piled up from 2022 they spend their resources to process new applications faster. Then "somehow" estimated processing times approach 30 months. What a clown world.
Probably you have a complex case. Don't forget, getting citizenship is not a right but a privilege. Even meeting all criteria does not necessarily mean that they cannot reject.

If you have permanent residence, you are pretty much covered anyway.

mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:14 pm

fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:04 pm
I don't get that priority !"#¤% in decision-making. When our applications are piled up from 2022 they spend their resources to process new applications faster. Then "somehow" estimated processing times approach 30 months. What a clown world.
That’s an amazing customer service from Migri
Very good ❤️

riku2
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by riku2 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:22 pm

fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:04 pm
I don't get that priority !"#¤% in decision-making. When our applications are piled up from 2022 they spend their resources to process new applications faster.
What would you prefer? that the easy to process applications just queue up behind the harder ones where information is hard to verify and more research is needed. That would mean that EVERYONE would wait over 2 years for their application to be processed.

fingol
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by fingol » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:19 pm

riku2 wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:22 pm
fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:04 pm
I don't get that priority !"#¤% in decision-making. When our applications are piled up from 2022 they spend their resources to process new applications faster.
What would you prefer? that the easy to process applications just queue up behind the harder ones where information is hard to verify and more research is needed. That would mean that EVERYONE would wait over 2 years for their application to be processed.
Oh yeah. When the application goes to second stage after years somehow the decision is granted on the same day. Do you believe they were researching during those years?

just_passing_by
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:22 pm

oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm
I came without a residence permit and applied for one in Finland.
I applied for citizenship a little earlier, then 4 years requirement was fulfilled (3 month earlier).
This case actually destroys two myths:
1. Applying earlier than 4 years of residence does not mean that you will end up waiting in the long queue.
2. Coming to Finland without Residence with a tourist visa does not mean that you will end up waiting in the long queue.

The migri calculator asks whether you came to Finland without Residence permit, but in reality it is probably asking whether you came to Finland as a refugee/asylum seeker.

Uskomaton
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Uskomaton » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:40 pm

fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:19 pm
riku2 wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:22 pm
fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:04 pm
I don't get that priority !"#¤% in decision-making. When our applications are piled up from 2022 they spend their resources to process new applications faster.
What would you prefer? that the easy to process applications just queue up behind the harder ones where information is hard to verify and more research is needed. That would mean that EVERYONE would wait over 2 years for their application to be processed.
Oh yeah. When the application goes to second stage after years somehow the decision is granted on the same day. Do you believe they were researching during those years?
There you go!

viewtopic.php?p=604363#p604363

"I am paying back taxes and Kela (study support) based on agreed payment plan. I am ahead of payment plan. Does it have negative impact on decision-making?"

Well, it does affect how your application is handled.

fingol
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by fingol » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:51 pm

Uskomaton wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:40 pm
fingol wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:19 pm
riku2 wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:22 pm


What would you prefer? that the easy to process applications just queue up behind the harder ones where information is hard to verify and more research is needed. That would mean that EVERYONE would wait over 2 years for their application to be processed.
Oh yeah. When the application goes to second stage after years somehow the decision is granted on the same day. Do you believe they were researching during those years?
There you go!

viewtopic.php?p=604363#p604363

"I am paying back taxes and Kela (study support) based on agreed payment plan. I am ahead of payment plan. Does it have negative impact on decision-making?"

Well, it does affect how your application is handled.
Thanks for stalking. Those debts came after applying to citizenship and I paid back all of them in a short time. Application was never checked.

fingol
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by fingol » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:55 pm

just_passing_by wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:22 pm
oct.2023.RU.IT wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:24 pm
I came without a residence permit and applied for one in Finland.
I applied for citizenship a little earlier, then 4 years requirement was fulfilled (3 month earlier).
This case actually destroys two myths:
1. Applying earlier than 4 years of residence does not mean that you will end up waiting in the long queue.
2. Coming to Finland without Residence with a tourist visa does not mean that you will end up waiting in the long queue.

The migri calculator asks whether you came to Finland without Residence permit, but in reality it is probably asking whether you came to Finland as a refugee/asylum seeker.
It doesn't explain why my refugee friend from Iraq got decision in 7 months.


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