the real meaning of limonadi

dr_pgonzalez · Post by **dr_pgonzalez** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:56 am

OK by now every foreigner who's been here for a while has come across the peculiar Finnish way of referring to soda pop as "limonadi"

My handy dandy dictionary translates limonadi as lemonade, but wait... I have never come across traditional lemonade here in Finland.

When I try to explain that lemonade is something like "siitruna jouma ja vesi ja sokeri" I get a big laugh (mainly because my Finnish is so poor, but you get the point.)

So how did limonadi become the word for soft drink and how do you explain to someone that you want some american lemonade

patrick

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mookoo · Post by **mookoo** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:18 am

I've seen (and tried) the limonadi stuff and its rather gross

And I don't think the term is applied to all soda is it? I thought it was just a kind of brand name or product line for nasty carbonated mock-citrus-flavored beverages

But I have come to realize that some "real" things just can't be found here ... like "real" sour cream, "real" peanut butter, and so on.

But luckily, real lemonade isn't too terribly difficult to make at home.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:31 am

Ha, I just order a "jaffa"

So Patrick, why do you Americans call 'lemonade' 'soda' because as far as I can tell there is no silver white soft waxy ductile element of the alkali metal group in there...

And what you are describing is unfermented mead - who in the world would drink that stuff... Next thing you'll probably do is go ask for ice in your drink and they give you an iron bar and tell you to go hack it off the street

Etymologically - I think the name 'lemonade' just stuck after someone invented fizzing up regular lemonade. "Soda water" isn't unknown, but as "sooda" is used with lye to wash stuff and kids were spanked into believing it is stuff not to be drunk, so as selling poison at a stand isn't necessarily the greatest business idea the name "lemonade" sorta sounded more marketable. And as you can see from the plantlife lemons grow here so abundantly quite naturally so as the word had been loaned to mean "drink made of lemon juice" it stuck meaning "any drink made out of any fruit juice"...

ilikepeanutbutter · Post by **ilikepeanutbutter** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:26 am

Anyone need a lemonade recipe? I have a good and simple fast one to make

I don't know how it got it's name

lol My mominlaw calls juice soft? Alrighty then

I don't buy Jaffa, it has bad side effects with me

I call everything pop

Down south in America everyone calls everything Coke. AHHHHHHHH! My sister did that and when they brought her a coke she said I asked for a Sprite.

lol

Kat

khu · Post by **khu** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:08 pm

No, dammit, sima is NOT mead. Mead only refers to fermented honey beverages. The 'ready in a few days' lemoney sugar water Finns make is not mead.

Amiel · Post by **Amiel** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:12 pm

ilikepeanutbutter wrote:Anyone need a lemonade recipe? I have a good and simple fast one to make

YES, Kat. I'd love to have one

PM me?

ilikepeanutbutter · Post by **ilikepeanutbutter** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:52 pm

Amiel wrote:
ilikepeanutbutter wrote:Anyone need a lemonade recipe? I have a good and simple fast one to make
YES, Kat. I'd love to have one PM me?

Sure, I'll mail it off to you right away!

Kat

mookoo · Post by **mookoo** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:05 pm

Hank W. wrote:So Patrick, why do you Americans call 'lemonade' 'soda' because as far as I can tell there is no silver white soft waxy ductile element of the alkali metal group in there...

- actually, I need a more confused looking smiley!

I don't think any Americans call lemonade 'soda'. In fact, what I consider to be "real" lemonade isn't even carbonated (and that may have been part of patricks confusion as well since the limonadi is carbonated I think). We used to just make it with some lovely fresh water from the tap, about a 1/4 cup lemon juice, and as much sugar as it takes to get it tasting sweet. Mmmmmm.

And I sometimes wonder why my American ass has grown so large

At least the Finns have started to see the beauty of flavored iced tea! So, maybe I can live here afterall

ilikepeanutbutter · Post by **ilikepeanutbutter** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:16 pm

mookoo wrote:
Hank W. wrote:So Patrick, why do you Americans call 'lemonade' 'soda' because as far as I can tell there is no silver white soft waxy ductile element of the alkali metal group in there...
- actually, I need a more confused looking smiley!

I don't think any Americans call lemonade 'soda'. In fact, what I consider to be "real" lemonade isn't even carbonated (and that may have been part of patricks confusion as well since the limonadi is carbonated I think). We used to just make it with some lovely fresh water from the tap, about a 1/4 cup lemon juice, and as much sugar as it takes to get it tasting sweet. Mmmmmm. And I sometimes wonder why my American ass has grown so large

At least the Finns have started to see the beauty of flavored iced tea! So, maybe I can live here afterall

Shhhhh

No one can see our butts under large winter coats

lol whoo for winter!

lol

I haven't found good flavored tea yet

lol I make my own using extracts sometimes when I'm not lazy

lol

Kat

Lau · Post by **Lau** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:14 pm

You say Limonade in German and you get a Sprite or a 7up

ilikepeanutbutter · Post by **ilikepeanutbutter** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:50 pm

Lau wrote:You say Limonade in German and you get a Sprite or a 7up

Ever notice European Sprite tastes better than anywhere else? When I was traveling here from Frankfurt I just kept drinking and drinking the Sprite. Bad idea bladderwise but it tasted good

American Sprite tastes flat.

Kat

mookoo · Post by **mookoo** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:31 pm

ilikepeanutbutter wrote: American Sprite tastes flat.

And it leaves a film in your mouth bleh! I hated Sprite in the states, so I have stayed away from it here too. Maybe I will give it another shot now.

By the way, have any other Americans been tortured with sprite or 7up when they were young and had the stomach flu? Anytime I would toss my cookies as a kid I was forced to drink sprite or 7up and all that ever happened was that I would then throw up sprite or 7up. Maybe that contributes to my hate of both of them

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:44 pm

Finns use "jaffa" for that. I don't know what the magical ingredient is, but yellow-orange hartwall jaffa is the "stomach medicine"...

superiorinferior · Post by **superiorinferior** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:08 pm

mookoo wrote:
By the way, have any other Americans been tortured with sprite or 7up when they were young and had the stomach flu? Anytime I would toss my cookies as a kid I was forced to drink sprite or 7up and all that ever happened was that I would then throw up sprite or 7up. Maybe that contributes to my hate of both of them

I was given ginger ale, and hate it now. Maybe that's why... never really thought about that!

ilikepeanutbutter · Post by **ilikepeanutbutter** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:04 am

mookoo wrote:
ilikepeanutbutter wrote: American Sprite tastes flat.
And it leaves a film in your mouth bleh! I hated Sprite in the states, so I have stayed away from it here too. Maybe I will give it another shot now.

By the way, have any other Americans been tortured with sprite or 7up when they were young and had the stomach flu? Anytime I would toss my cookies as a kid I was forced to drink sprite or 7up and all that ever happened was that I would then throw up sprite or 7up. Maybe that contributes to my hate of both of them

oh Finnish Sprite is good! I drink clear pop or diet pop to avoid bad stomach cramps I get from sugared dark pop

lol

Oh yes!!!!

I always drank 7up when I puked, and then my mom fed my saltine crackers

lol I never really disliked the taste of 7up, it always settled my stomach pretty well.

lol

I'd definitly try Sprite here

It's pretty good! Too bad there's not a cheap knockoff now

There is one at Jumbo called VIP for 99cents. It's pretty decent.

Kat

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