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57273800koo
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Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by 57273800koo » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm

Hi all

Im non eu and my wife is finnish we’ve been married for 1.5 years and i have residence permit on family ties
We have baby and im not working im about to finish the integration program

Lately our life is becoming like hell mainly because my wife is kind of bored Of our relationship and she starts to drink heavily And go clubbing every week and alot of things that we didn’t agree on from the beginning

We decided that we have to divorce and she wants to keep the baby but i want to keep the baby Also And go back to my country to get married again but i think that cannot do that

My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!

Please help



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FinlandGirl
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by FinlandGirl » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pm

57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
We decided that we have to divorce and she wants to keep the baby but i want to keep the baby Also And go back to my country to get married again but i think that cannot do that
The child cannot move elsewhere unless both parents agree on that.
57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!
You are a family member of your Finnish citizen child.

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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by rinso » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:37 pm

57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
Hi all

Im non eu and my wife is finnish we’ve been married for 1.5 years and i have residence permit on family ties
We have baby and im not working im about to finish the integration program

Lately our life is becoming like hell mainly because my wife is kind of bored Of our relationship and she starts to drink heavily And go clubbing every week and alot of things that we didn’t agree on from the beginning

We decided that we have to divorce and she wants to keep the baby but i want to keep the baby Also And go back to my country to get married again but i think that cannot do that

My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!

Please help
Many things depend on the conditions of the divorce and the attitude of your (ex)wife.
After the divorce, you're still a family member of your daughter, so there should be no problem when renewing your RP.
But if you lose custody, things might get a bit more complicated. So go for shared custody.

It is unlikely you can keep the baby. In most cases, the child will stay with the mother. (unless the mother is judged incapable of taking care of the baby) The best you could hope for is a visiting arrangement.

Your position will become stronger if you find a job. So that should be your first priority. And don't burn any bridges toward your ex.

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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by toystory » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:02 am

57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!
Feminist country and feminist laws. You can't take the baby.

Feminism won't allow it.

Social and welfare benefits in this country lets women believe they can raise a baby by themselves and do not need a man.

My advice is to party along and make more babies with other women to keep your permit going.

Be the bigger pig.

:D

57273800koo
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by 57273800koo » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:02 pm

rinso wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:37 pm
57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
Hi all

Im non eu and my wife is finnish we’ve been married for 1.5 years and i have residence permit on family ties
We have baby and im not working im about to finish the integration program

Lately our life is becoming like hell mainly because my wife is kind of bored Of our relationship and she starts to drink heavily And go clubbing every week and alot of things that we didn’t agree on from the beginning

We decided that we have to divorce and she wants to keep the baby but i want to keep the baby Also And go back to my country to get married again but i think that cannot do that

My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!

Please help
Many things depend on the conditions of the divorce and the attitude of your (ex)wife.
After the divorce, you're still a family member of your daughter, so there should be no problem when renewing your RP.
But if you lose custody, things might get a bit more complicated. So go for shared custody.

It is unlikely you can keep the baby. In most cases, the child will stay with the mother. (unless the mother is judged incapable of taking care of the baby) The best you could hope for is a visiting arrangement.

Your position will become stronger if you find a job. So that should be your first priority. And don't burn any bridges toward your ex.
So if I didn’t start working my residence permit will be canceled?

57273800koo
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by 57273800koo » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:03 pm

FinlandGirl wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pm
57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
We decided that we have to divorce and she wants to keep the baby but i want to keep the baby Also And go back to my country to get married again but i think that cannot do that
The child cannot move elsewhere unless both parents agree on that.
57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!
You are a family member of your Finnish citizen child.
So because im family member i can keep my residence permit or it will get canceled ?
Are you sure?

57273800koo
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by 57273800koo » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:04 pm

toystory wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:02 am
57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!
Feminist country and feminist laws. You can't take the baby.

Feminism won't allow it.

Social and welfare benefits in this country lets women believe they can raise a baby by themselves and do not need a man.

My advice is to party along and make more babies with other women to keep your permit going.

Be the bigger pig.

:D
What is the difference if i have baby from another woman???

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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by betelgeuse » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm

57273800koo wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:03 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pm
57273800koo wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 pm
My question is what will happen to my residence permit after divorce and I cannot imagine that I would be deported so I cannot see my baby in years that is driving me insane !!!
You are a family member of your Finnish citizen child.
So because im family member i can keep my residence permit or it will get canceled ?
Are you sure?
Here's the relevant permit as long as you are a guardian (and with the assumption that the child is a Finnish citizen):

https://migri.fi/en/my-child-is-a-finnish-citizen

Nothing needs to be done until renewal time.

57273800koo
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by 57273800koo » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:03 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm
57273800koo wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:03 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pm


You are a family member of your Finnish citizen child.
So because im family member i can keep my residence permit or it will get canceled ?
Are you sure?
Here's the relevant permit as long as you are a guardian (and with the assumption that the child is a Finnish citizen):

https://migri.fi/en/my-child-is-a-finnish-citizen

Nothing needs to be done until renewal time.
Does it affect if my wife won the custody ?

57273800koo
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by 57273800koo » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:03 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:11 pm
57273800koo wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:03 pm
FinlandGirl wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pm


You are a family member of your Finnish citizen child.
So because im family member i can keep my residence permit or it will get canceled ?
Are you sure?
Here's the relevant permit as long as you are a guardian (and with the assumption that the child is a Finnish citizen):

https://migri.fi/en/my-child-is-a-finnish-citizen

Nothing needs to be done until renewal time.
Does it affect if my wife won the custody ?

betelgeuse
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Re: Divorce with a child residence permit

Post by betelgeuse » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:00 pm

57273800koo wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:03 pm
Does it affect if my wife won the custody ?
Yes when custody = huoltajuus. Do note that custody can be shared even if child regularly lives with one parent. Based on this thread consider getting professional advice.

As a side note, it's interesting that Migri uses the term guardian on their website when Finlex translations use the term for "edunvalvoja". Seems like it would be better for Migri to fix their terminology.


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