question about EU citizenship registration

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:52 pm

...what do i need to take with me to the police station when i register as residing in finland? all i know is i should take my passport and 40e,....

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interleukin · Post by **interleukin** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:15 pm

a photograph (passport size) in colour

workcontract perhaps? Any other papers proving your reason for coming here should be useful (e.g. marriage certificates, proof of studying etc).

Im sure the expert on this forum know.

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Murithi · Post by **Murithi** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:40 pm

http://www.uvi.fi/netcomm/Default.asp?language=EN

all the information you need is on the immigration website.

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:36 pm

ok thank you for your replies, but i will not have a work contract, i am coming to live with my girlfriend, i will be studying finnish and looking for work.

sinikettu · Post by **sinikettu** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:21 pm

COBHC wrote:ok thank you for your replies, but i will not have a work contract, i am coming to live with my girlfriend, i will be studying finnish and looking for work.

If you are an EU citizen..no problems.
Just say you are here because you are looking for work and want to eventualy become a "permanent resident"... .but better take your GF along to help with any Finnish in-case you get someone who says they dont speak English very well.
Where do you intend to live in Finland..?

By the way..It would help others if you edit the subject of this thread to something more indicative of what your question is...

Copy paste from the UVI web site: You don’t need a residence permit.
But
Summary

Citizens of Nordic countries register their stay if it is over 3 months at the city administrative court on the basis of a Nordic certificate of notice of departure.

Similarly, a EU or Swiss or Liechtenstein citizen must register his or her right to reside with the police, if he or she stays more than 3 months in Finland. You are free to work in Finland, but you must inform the employment office, that you are presently working in Finland. The registered right to reside is valid until further notice, and after 4 years you can be granted a permanent right of residence.

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:28 pm

well my girlfriend has already said she will come along and help if needed to so thats sorted, i will be living in helsinki. also i am an EU citizen so again no probs there.....i hope...................also how do i change the subject??

sinikettu · Post by **sinikettu** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:36 pm

COBHC wrote: i will be living in helsinki. also i am an EU citizen so again no probs there.....i hope...................also how do i change the subject??

You need to go to Malmi Police station if you are living in Helsinki..
But if your address is Espoo or Vantaa...then you go to that city police station.
Espoo is in Kilo.
Vantaa is in Tikurilla.

You also need to go to the magistrate office to get your ID number.
It used to be near Forum shopping centre...not sure if still there??

You change the subject by going back to you first post in this thread and use the "Edit" key...beside ther "quote" key.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:39 pm

sinikettu wrote: If you are an EU citizen..no problems.
Just say you are here because you are looking for work and want to eventualy become a "permanent resident"...

Well, my Brummy mate was told "work contract" or "wad of cash" before the police would register him.... the GF wasn't enough as "means of support". See you don't need to be registered to find the work they say, but they want you to be able to support yourself - somehow. And KELA and dole isn't the right answer.

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 pm

but if i am learning finnish in order to find work, then i will have no work contract, so do i need to find work before attempting to register or register as soon as i get there? im not fussy about work i will work as pretty much anything, and i wasnt gonna come to finland just to claim benefits, never claimed them in england and i dont plan on starting that way in finland, i know english speaking work is hard to find, so this is now confusing me haha

sinikettu · Post by **sinikettu** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:48 pm

Read this thread...
bb/viewtopic.php?t=14496

Pay special attention to the Order to do things list by Papu.

COBHC · Post by **COBHC** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:00 pm

ok well thank you for all your help. im just starting to panic because its only next month that i move, bit scary haha, i just want to make sure it all goes accordingly and that they don't tell me to bugger off back to England. so again thanks for the help it was .... helpful, i just hope it all works out when i get there

sinikettu · Post by **sinikettu** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:25 pm

COBHC wrote: that they don't tell me to bugger off back to England.

The only person who might say that is the GF...
If she gets fed up with you.

Coming to live in Finland is just the same as going to live in Scotland.
The only difference is that because you speak English getting a job in Scotland is more easy.
The police (ministry of interior = Home office in UK) say that they want even EU citizens to "register" their place of residence.
If for some reason. (Brummie accent)...They say that they dont register you untill you have a job...So be it...That does not change your right as an EU citizen to live here.

I suggest you find a Finnish course and enrole on it asap and take that fact to Malmi police to prove that you are studying here.

But first as in that thread I linked above...Go to the magistraati (magistrate) in Albertinkatu and tell the nice ladies that you want to apply for residence -> they will send you to the police-station in Malmi... BUT first they´ll give you a piece of paper stating that you are currently in the registering process

Show this paper to the Malmi police.
That will start the ball rolling to get you an ID number.

sinikala · Post by **sinikala** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:21 pm

I hope the procedure has become more organised since I applied for my residence permist (I'm obviously an EU citizen)

Kilo Police told me I needed a henkilötunnus (National insurance number) from Maistraatti before they would process my residence permit... application papers in hand, I had to went to Tapiola Maistraatti and asked them for a henkilötunnus.

The lady in Tapiola photo-copied the documents and my passport then just jotted a number down on a piece of paper (literally a piece of photcopier paper, not an official document) and told me to take it back to the Police station!

I couldn't understand why this was any better than the Police just phoning up / e-mailing / faxing Tapiola Maistraatti and asking for the number themselves, instead of using me as a courier service.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:25 pm

sinikala wrote:I couldn't understand why this was any better than the Police just phoning up / e-mailing / faxing Tapiola Maistraatti and asking for the number themselves, instead of using me as a courier service.

Ah, because of data protection and privacy. You is you, so they cannot be you, when you do the things you do as you.

In other words, big brother has only a one-way data flow in certain places.

sinikala · Post by **sinikala** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:27 pm

Hank W. wrote:
sinikala wrote:I couldn't understand why this was any better than the Police just phoning up / e-mailing / faxing Tapiola Maistraatti and asking for the number themselves, instead of using me as a courier service.
Ah, because of data protection and privacy. You is you, so they cannot be you, when you do the things you do as you. In other words, big brother has only a one-way data flow in certain places.

Sod that! I had better things to do with my time than shuttle pieces of paper around in my tax avoiding, foreign registered car

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