Driving and staying in Finland....

[titta2]

I brought my car over here from England and have just got the permit to drive it until I go and sort out the paper work/tax in few days time.
Okay that bit is clear however until today my boyfriend was able to drive it (tourist.) Now that the car is here in my name and the car got the temporary plates on etc apparently he shouldn't drive it unless I am in the vechile (mad.)

I wanted to know if this is always the case or just now whilst the car isn't fully "registered" here. He isn't here permanently (comes and goes like the wind) doens't want to give up his flat and everything in England surely he should be able to drive my car whilst here???

Second "thingi" we aren't married I am finnish and we have a daughter who has a dual citizenship....should he register here somehow even if here is only half of the year or less.... can you be registered here and in England.

[dave071061]

5.3.5 Use of vehicle and transfer to
another person after removal to
Finland
A vehicle which has been granted tax reduction
as removal goods may not, without payment
of the tax in full, be sold, hired out or otherwise
transferred to another person, nor be put
at the disposal of persons other than members
of the immigrant’s family, whether for a consideration
or free of charge, before the vehicle
has been under the ownership of the immigrant
or his spouse or in their possession under conditions
leading to ownership and in the use of
the immigrant for in all three years, of which,
however, after the removal at least one year
in Finland.

You can find the details here http://www.tulli.fi/en/02_Publications/ ... 006_en.pdf

But in short, No, at least not until it's been in Finland for a year. You might get away with it if he was living with you full time I guess,

Sorry can't help with your 2nd question.

[Hank W.]

Autoverotta tai alennetulla verolla maahantuotua ajoneuvoa ei saa veron tai alennetun veron määrää suorittamatta myydä, vuokrata eikä muutoin luovuttaa eikä antaa vastikkeettakaan muuttajan perheeseen kuulumattoman henkilön käytettäväksi, ennen kuin ajoneuvo on ollut muuttajan tai hänen aviopuolisonsa omistuksessa tai omistukseen johtavassa hallinnassa ja muuttajan käytössä yhteensä 3 vuotta, josta kuitenkin vähintään 1 vuoden ajan Suomessa.

Ajoneuvon käyttöajaksi ei katsota sitä aikaa ennen muuttoa, jonka ajoneuvo on ollut vapaa-alueella tai muualla Suomessa. Käyttöaika kuitenkin kuluu, jos on kysymys edellä sanottuun tilapäiseen Suomessa oleskeluun liittyvästä käytöstä. Jos ajoneuvolle on myönnetty veronalennus ns. asteittaista muuttoa koskevien säännösten nojalla, käyttöajaksi ei myöskään katsota aikaa siitä päivästä, jona henkilö on saapunut maahan väliaikaista oleskelua varten, siihen päivään, jona ajoneuvolle on verotuspäätöksellä myönnetty veron alennus. Muuton jälkeen ajoneuvon käyttöajan Suomessa katsotaan alkavan sinä päivänä, jona ajoneuvolle on verotuspäätöksellä myönnetty autoverolain 25 §:ssä tarkoitettu veron alennus. Muuton jälkeen käyttöajaksi katsotaan kuitenkin vain se aika, jonka sekä ajoneuvo että muuttaja ovat Suomessa samanaikaisesti ja ajoneuvon rekisteröinti ja liikennevakuutus ovat voimassa. Ns. karenssiaika kuluu siten vain sinä aikana, kun muuttaja käyttää ajoneuvoa Suomessa. Esimerkiksi ajoneuvon poistaminen rekisteristä tai muuttajan oleskelu ulkomailla keskeyttävät karenssiajan kulumisen. Vakiintuneen verotuskäytännön perusteella käyttöajaksi katsotaan myös ajoneuvon tavanomainen talviseisonta 1.11. -30.4.

Muuttajan perheeseen kuuluvat hänen kanssaan yhteisessä taloudessa asuva aviopuoliso ja muuttajan ja hänen aviopuolisonsa naimattomat lapset, jotka niin ikään asuvat muuttajan kanssa yhteisessä taloudessa. Siten esimerkiksi muuttajan vanhemmat ja sisarukset eivät kuulu muuttajan perheeseen, vaikka he asuisivatkin samassa taloudessa muuttajan kanssa. Rekisteröidystä parisuhteesta annetun lain nojalla parisuhteensa rekisteröineet samaa sukupuolta olevat henkilöt rinnastetaan verolainsäädäntöä sovellettaessa aviopuolisoihin.

Aviopuolisoon rinnastetaan tässä yhteydessä myös muuttajan kanssa avioliittoa solmimatta yhteisessä taloudessa avioliitonomaisissa olosuhteissa jatkuvasti elävä, toista sukupuolta oleva henkilö eli avopuoliso, jolla on muuton jälkeen, siis myös karenssiaikana, ajoneuvon käyttöoikeus.

Read this PDF Don't "think". Basically yes but no but yes but no but yes....

What comes to the registration, the county will want to know who is the child's father. Actually they require it as if there is a 'fatherless' child thy have to shell out the child support - which they don't want to do. But this is usually right when a child is born - in your situation I guess its a bit different. About the come&go hubby - if he gets a job here he needs to get registered, Then again theres all the taxation and such, and if you're getting sme KELA handouts if you're now living with a someone or not liing with a someone... So I'd say its a bit of either/or situation.

[titta2]

Thank You for the advice.

It was just wierd that on the way to Custom he coud drive and on the way back he coudn't...

Oh it is all so "backtofront"...

I genuinly bought the car so I could use it for moving and bring the dog (real dog) with me but it isn't seen as a car for moving....and will have to pay the tax... which is costing me more than the car.

[titta2]

Apologies for the spelling....

[Hank W.]

A "moving car" is a car you own and bring in as a piece of furniture, and its a different thing from a car you bring in and pay the taxes for. So try to decide now which kind of car you have. A furniture or one that gets taxed? Because the rules are different.

[dave071061]

As Hang says, If you paid the tax on the car when you imported it then different rules apply and yes he should be able to drive it as it is considered the same as any other finnish car,
I guess there will be restrictions until the tax is paid and you have full finnish plates on it.

Sorry I assumed you had brought the car in as moving goods.

[titta2]

Hello again,

Yes the thing is that because I bought it recently apparently it will not be seen as a car for moving (muutto auto). So taxes will have to be paid.

[Hank W.]

Yes, so then its a "regular" car once you've paid the taxes on it.

Though did you say you have the steering wheel in the passenger seat? And for the costs get a few grand stashed somewhere as you won't get it inspected before a refitting, lamps atleast, which will cost you some, and I've heard in places self-imported cars with a "wrong side" steering won't be accepted. *sigh* See the Customs will take the money. And you can't go to "katsastus" before you've paid to hear "no".

I'd given the car to the boyfriend the minute I heard it couldn't be "swum in" and told him to drive it away. I'd still take that as an option.

[sinikala]

Yes, so then its a "regular" car once you've paid the taxes on it.

Though did you say you have the steering wheel in the passenger seat? And for the costs get a few grand stashed somewhere as you won't get it inspected before a refitting, lamps atleast, which will cost you some, and I've heard in places self-imported cars with a "wrong side" steering won't be accepted. *sigh* See the Customs will take the money. And you can't go to "katsastus" before you've paid to hear "no".

I'd given the car to the boyfriend the minute I heard it couldn't be "swum in" and told him to drive it away. I'd still take that as an option.

If you don't want to pay the tax, whilst it is legal to drive it, drive it to Hanko. From there it can be put on a ferry and sent back to the UK for a few hundred Euros.

[titta2]

Well, you are right about the lights...€151-350 each...they arrived in the post today. Also took it to the Mot that is were they told me about the lights, also they were rather strict about the ....hm what ever.... exhaust fume levels (more cost.) As to driving it righthand drive is okay so far ...
All the post office vans the steering is on the other side too.
Now just waiting for the tax. I have spent so much on it now that have to keep it....LOL well not much LOL about it.