How to get a residence permission for EU foreigner?

[Mateusz88]

How to get a residence permission for EU foreigner and recieve money from KELA? I want to attend a school here for doing my matriculation and maybe study her etc. The school accepted me and I know where to find a flat (HOAS) but how should I apply for residence permit and then later on by KELLA? I am also learning finnish. Please give me some hints. Should I first find a job and finnish course a then apply for residence permit and KELLA?

[Hank W.]

So, you are from the EU, so you just go to the police station and to the magistrate and register yourself. In the city you live in, and have an address of some kind. You need to have the acceptance paper from the school with you as well as all papers they have on the list. The police will give you an EU-paper you then go to the magistrate and say you want to live in the city and they give you the identity number.

For KELA you need basically to be working in a job for 2 years if you want to get some money out of them. Depends a bit, but you cannot get for example student money if you came here for studying.

But for anything you need your number, which you get when you register at the maistraatti, so you will not exist before you do that.

[Mateusz88]

Actually I will apply in Helsinki. But at the police station they will ask me why I want to stay here in Finland, right? The problem is I would like to finish my school, find a job (like cleaning) and maybe stay here for longer. So in your opinion I won't recieve any help from KELA even if I would find a job like cleaning or McDonalds?

[Hank W.]

But at the police station they will ask me why I want to stay here in Finland, right?

Yes, but they will not register you just because of "want" - they want you to have the job contract in hand. And for students they want to see money in the bank.

So in your opinion I won't recieve any help from KELA even if I would find a job like cleaning or McDonalds?

They do not give handouts to people just like that. And the system is if you just come to the country, they will not register you unless you have a job, so if you are not registered you do not exist so KELA will not know you. To get into the Finnish healthcare system you need to have a job, then for example health care etc. is organized.

But if you come to study they won't give you any benefits.

[Mateusz88]

So when I go to the police, then I must show them some documents that I'm studying or my work contract, that I'm working?

If I want to have an health insurance where should I apply to and how much would it cost monthly?

"If you come to Finland solely for the purpose of attending a school, you cannot get Finnish student financial aid." But if I have a job (like McDonalds or cleaing) and I still study by the way, so how do they see my?

[Hank W.]

Well, the health insurance you get when you get a job. And then that registering, its better to register here for having a job, as then you came here for the purpose to have a job, right

[Mateusz88]

But I must have some insurance, eventough I'm unemployed. And how do I get the Social Security Number?

[Hank W.]

The insurance you have from you own home country for the 3 months with the EU health card you have with you. (And if you don't, well, do you go to the toilet and look if there is paper before or after you have your pants down?) And the number you get when you go to the maistraatti, but they won't give you one unless you have a paper from the police and a reason to stay. Reason meaning a job. You think we just give money to everyone coming here

[voyechando]

So, you are from the EU, so you just go to the police station and to the magistrate and register yourself. In the city you live in, and have an address of some kind. You need to have the acceptance paper from the school with you as well as all papers they have on the list. The police will give you an EU-paper you then go to the magistrate and say you want to live in the city and they give you the identity number.

But for anything you need your number, which you get when you register at the maistraatti, so you will not exist before you do that.

well, in my case they asked for funds, but my gf just moved in to live with me, she has an EU pass as well, we were at maistratti first, and they gave her a paper with her name, our address, etc. but doesn't have a SSN on it, (it costed 3,70eur BTW) they said they'll provide it after she got registered, in malmi they didn't care when I said I will support her, they said that, to get her registered we need to be married, or have to live together in the same household for over 2 years, or 'job contract',
funny thing is, she brought her car in, imported it as RG, and the car is already on finnish plates and all that, and she has not been registered yet. so in katsastus and at nordea they asked for her SSN, then they assigned'er a temporary one, we got back to maistratti asking to have a temporary SSN, to use it for such situations, and we heard the same speech we heard at malmi.
IMO, the 'buro' guys they've been all in a meeting hearing from upper levels how things would be from now on, and that meeting took place sometime between august and november 2006. is really different when I got registered 6 months ago and now. I feel they are much more protective right now, 'cause of the kela raha, but why can't they just ban EU citizen from getting it, but give'em at least a chance to register, just like any finnish people would do in spain, for example.
Or is the money the only thing that matters in this European Union? what about the human being?

[Hank W.]

So, make your gf a honorable woman then.

[peppetto]

The health card,issued by your country is valid only for 1 month staying to one or another state inside in the Europen Union.And when it is over-than what.So it will be better to get a finnish health card as soon as it is possible-it means ,that you must find and have any job in Finland !Gluch!

[sinikettu]

The message ia simple to those from the EU..thinking of coming to Finland to work.
I quote from a recent joint statement by the minsitry of interior and ministry of employment.

"The Finnish government and people welcome those who wish to come here and work, but advise that you find employment before you actualy come here.
Unemployment amongst foreigner is very high as most vacancies demand the Finnish language.
Finland is very expensive place to sit and wait for a job to appear.

Students are also welcome to apply for places at our universities.They will be accepeted if they meet the needed qualifications , and have means to support them-sleves while here."