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Dara
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by Dara » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:41 pm
Hello all!
I am a newbie on this site.

I came across it while browsing the net for Finnish jobsites. After reading the posts on the job topic here I thought I would ask for an advice, as there are people here who do seem to know what they are talking about. I have been living in Helsinki as a student in 1999 and 2000, and I just loved the place. So now my husband and I have decided to move to Finland for at least a few years. And of course the first problem to get pass by is the job-finding one. I have a degree in PR but my guess is I wouldn't have a chance to find a PR job from abroad... so our hopes are my husband who is an IT graduate (networking) and Cisco (CCNA) certified specialist would have a better chance at getting a job.
Do you know any IT companies we could get in contact with? Is it a good idea if we simply get a list of the companies in that sector and contact them? Or may be just answer job announcements would be enough? I already realized we have to actually CALL people/companies if we want to stand a chance but wouldn't that be a lil too impudent?
Thank you all in advance!
Dara
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by Guest » Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:59 pm
Welcome to the forum!
Impudent... Maybe... But I think you have little choice.
Like you said yourself, you don't stand a chance if you don't let them know you're an actual physical existing person.
Letters and e-mails alone don't do the trick. You have to remind them that it was you who sent them the info.
I personally didn't have any luck in trying to get a job when I was still in the other country, but I've heard of people who have, so you have a good chance.
But CALL!!
Good luck!
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by mof » Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:09 pm
With a CCNA you should be able to get yourself some entry level work with several companies in .fi
If you don't speak finnish I recommend Nokia...
Otherwise there are plenty of places:
Start with the ISP's and work from there..
But I guess it all comes down to whether you would like to do operational work or design work
MOF
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Dara
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by Dara » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:11 am
Thank you Arno and MOF for the replies!
Yes, Nokia was our first thought. Back in 2000 I knew a lot of foreigners who were employed by Nokia Finland only after a phone interview. Back then they were employing even people with only 2 years of Uni/College education and no other qualifications or experience. However as I heard right now Nokia are actually laying off employees and the job announcements on their site are getting fewer and fewer

. We were hoping that a Cisco certification would be a good start but we are not sure how many Cisco specialists there are in Finland and how intense the competition for Cisco related jobs is. Do you think a CCNP certification would increase the chance for finding a job? Do you know any particular companies we could start from? And, yeah, we are talking more about operational work... Is network design a better idea?
Thanks again!
Dara
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by Dara » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:22 pm
Hei hei Dave!
There is a saying - if there is a will there is a way - or something (it is a translation so not sure how it should sound in English!) and I firmly believe in it. The only way to surely not achieve something is not to try, so we are going to try and keep on trying as long as it takes. All the posts here keep my spirits up and I am happy I can meet people who actually did what we are just starting to work on. Thanks a bunch for your reply!
I bookmarked all job sites posted in another thread here but so far they are not of much help. My experience shows that in Finland as almost anywhere else the job market depends much more on personal relationships and "inside knowledge" than anything else. It seems that in the IT industry lack of Finnish language knowledge is not that big of an obstacle if one is a good specialist. Now I come to think, is it harder to find a job in Lapland than in southern Finland? Just wondering...
So Dave, it took you one year and a half to get a job in Finland? Heh, that is really not such a long time! I would be glad to hear more about your "job finding adventure" if you got the time to PM me!
Dara
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by Dara » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:06 pm
Yup Dave, PMing me next week would be great, thanks again!
As to the lack of mountains... that I found even more depressing than the lack of light and the low temperatures...
Dara
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by mof » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:21 pm
Sure, a CCNP would be better, but so would a CCIE..
But it's more important to realise that Nokia is in competetion with the big C, so depending on where in NOkia you would you would be better off haveing the NOkia certifications for their Network gear...
You said Nokia is laying off people...yes, that has been true and might continue...but, they are still always hiring.
PM me with your detaisl and whether you are morne interedted in R&D, design or operational work...I can forward your CV to some of our network guys..
But odds are the most likely roles would be working as a firewall monkey.
So SSH, IPSO and checkpoint should be your friends....
Br,
MOF
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by tiinajk » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:31 pm
I moved to Finland in 2001 and was able to secure a job before I got here. I'm also in IT and began by searching for IT companies in Finland and sending out CV's. Mostly I got thanks-but-no-thanks, some who said that they'd keep me on file incase something came up, others that wanted to arrange an interview when I arrived and then was lucky enough to get phone interviews with Nokia for 2 different positions. One of them then flew me to Helsinki for testing and interview and I have the job before leaving The Netherland. The good thing there was that they also helped with relocation costs.
I realise that the climate is different now but it's deffinately worth being active in contacting companies and looking outside the advertised jobs. It is possible...
Good Luck...
Tiina
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by Dara » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:09 pm
I am so happy I came across this message board! All of you are so helpful and supportive and I couldn't ask for more. I really owe you a big Thank you!
MOF, your concern and advice are much appreciated! I will PM you tonight after I talk to my husband as he is the one in IT and I do not understand or know much about all that networking. It would be of such help to discuss the Nokia possibilities with you!
Gratefully,
Dara
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by roy » Fri May 08, 2009 8:52 am
I am replying to a post which is almost 6 years old. Cause my case is almost the same.
I am CCNA certified and Cisco Certified Academy Instructor (CCAI) as well. I have been working in the networking fielf for the last 4 and a half years. I have been accepted in the Helsinki University of Technology in the Master's of Science in Communication Engg. Programme. Wish to start my course from the end of August, 09. No tution fees required. But food and accommodation I need to manage myself. So I must try part time job. So is there any suggestion for any network related jobs or any part time job as a student I can do? I know the situation of job market is not good now. But I must do try. As I will be new there and dont know the Finnish language, so I am little worried. Any kind of suggestion or help in this regard will be very much appreciable. Will be waiting. Thanks.
- Roy.
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by Rosamunda » Fri May 08, 2009 9:21 am
I guess the advice hasn't changed much in 6 years, but clearly the current economic situation makes finding a job much harder. The big companies have drastically cut back on consultants and contractors, using their in-house resources as much as they can.
If you have no personal contacts then you can either use the companies' recruitment engines (upload your CV onto their own websites), or you can try
http://www.mol.fi (the job vacancy board of the Ministry of Labour) or maybe try using a
consultant broker .