Hi there i have 10 weeks to go and i am looking for diposable biodegradable nappies. Is there such a thing??
I did go to the eco shop in Kampii but the reusable nappies are 16.60 a pop.
With our drying room costing 2.50 a go i don't think we would have much money left for food! Well its either that or our poor baby ends up with nappy rash!
If anyone has some other smart ideas let me know. I would like to think i am trying to make a difference my planet in some way.
Diposable biodegradable nappies
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scoobymcdoo
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I thought that the eco shop in Kamppi (Ruohonjuuri) sold Moltex.
If not your best bet is to order a whole load of reussables from the UK- need help chosing? Here are my views... http://www.quayclark.com/nappy.aspx
Ask anything about reusables, I CL on the ivillage nappy board too.
Hannah
If not your best bet is to order a whole load of reussables from the UK- need help chosing? Here are my views... http://www.quayclark.com/nappy.aspx
Ask anything about reusables, I CL on the ivillage nappy board too.
Hannah
nappies.
I was just looking at your site. I have been a nanny for years and always used cloth nappies but i have to admit that was when i had access to a house, washing machine and tumble dryer.
You are a star with the moltex. I was beginning to think i was mad, and that such a thing did not exist.
Can i also ask where do i buy fitted jersey cotton sheets to fit a mattress 60*110.
I stupidly bought this mattress in unikulma and low and behold no one does bedding that size!
You are a star with the moltex. I was beginning to think i was mad, and that such a thing did not exist.
Can i also ask where do i buy fitted jersey cotton sheets to fit a mattress 60*110.
I stupidly bought this mattress in unikulma and low and behold no one does bedding that size!
Michaela Cussen
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scoobymcdoo
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Well, if it's only about that: Just think about how often you will have to put on the washing machine, use some washing-powder (or liquid) and maybe even use a drying-machine. I don't really think that there's a big difference (if there even is one), except for disposable diapers being more convinient.I would like to think i am trying to make a difference my planet in some way.
By the way: May baby hasn't had a rash ever yet, and she's 4½ months old and we use Pampers since she was born (actually not in hospital, there it was libero).
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scoobymcdoo
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http://www.healthydiapers.com/hs.html This first link tells us about what the chemicals in the Pampers can do to us.
http://www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk/environment.htm This is not just about washing, a lot of environmental damage is done when the Pampers are made.
http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/Informati ... rticleID=2 Just an article summarising.
As far as washing goes, most of us with kids have to wash clothes once a day, if you put the nappies in with the clothes then there is no difference in the environmental impact as you are still washing.
Although we now use Pampers 25% of the time (when out), I still would not put her in them full time. We used to be 100% cloth, but at least I know I'm minimising her exposure to all those chemicals, one disposable a day is better than 6.
I find it interesting that some parents are so concerned about their child eating organic/unprocessed food yet put them in Pampers.
Hannah (who freely admits she has an addiction to cloth nappies- no way have they worked out cheaper than buying Pampers as I have such a selection!)
http://www.twinkleontheweb.co.uk/environment.htm This is not just about washing, a lot of environmental damage is done when the Pampers are made.
http://www.thenappylady.co.uk/Informati ... rticleID=2 Just an article summarising.
As far as washing goes, most of us with kids have to wash clothes once a day, if you put the nappies in with the clothes then there is no difference in the environmental impact as you are still washing.
Although we now use Pampers 25% of the time (when out), I still would not put her in them full time. We used to be 100% cloth, but at least I know I'm minimising her exposure to all those chemicals, one disposable a day is better than 6.
I find it interesting that some parents are so concerned about their child eating organic/unprocessed food yet put them in Pampers.
Hannah (who freely admits she has an addiction to cloth nappies- no way have they worked out cheaper than buying Pampers as I have such a selection!)
If you find any neutral articles, which are not written by "people" who also sell the cloth-nappies and for that HAVE to advertise them, I might reconsider. 
Btw...I have to wash 2 machines of babyclothes, her "crawling-blanket" (whatever it is in English), her sleeping-bags (<-- might not be the right word either) and so everything else she get's in touch with, because she's puking all day long, almost without break...it would be horrible, if I would also have to wash and hang up diapers (we don't have a drying machine).
Btw...I have to wash 2 machines of babyclothes, her "crawling-blanket" (whatever it is in English), her sleeping-bags (<-- might not be the right word either) and so everything else she get's in touch with, because she's puking all day long, almost without break...it would be horrible, if I would also have to wash and hang up diapers (we don't have a drying machine).
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scoobymcdoo
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http://www.green-me.co.uk/environmentpage.php
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/yo ... 6/1072214/
http://www.headheritage.co.uk/uknow/fea ... .php?id=47
http://www.treehuggermums.co.uk/article ... article=43
http://www.richmond.gov.uk/home/environ ... appies.htm
i dont have a dryer, I just hang them on the line/clothes horse and let them dry over night, even in winter. It is no more extra washing as I have to wash clothes every day, 5 nappies does not need a separate load. I still have to hang the clothes up, I still have to fold them, for me there is no difference. You can even train your child to help you... http://www.quayclark.com/photogallery/100_1913.jpg
The amount of chemicals in the nappies are a big concern, the fact they take up to 500 years to decompose, the amount of trees and oil that is needed to make a disposable etc.
I would never wear paper or plastic pants so why should my child?
Hannah
ETA- In the times we have had to use Pampers, some of them have exploded leaving the gel stuck to her bits, if she had been a child to put everything in her mouth, she could have swallowed the gel- it would only take 5g to be very harmful to her.
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/yo ... 6/1072214/
http://www.headheritage.co.uk/uknow/fea ... .php?id=47
http://www.treehuggermums.co.uk/article ... article=43
http://www.richmond.gov.uk/home/environ ... appies.htm
i dont have a dryer, I just hang them on the line/clothes horse and let them dry over night, even in winter. It is no more extra washing as I have to wash clothes every day, 5 nappies does not need a separate load. I still have to hang the clothes up, I still have to fold them, for me there is no difference. You can even train your child to help you... http://www.quayclark.com/photogallery/100_1913.jpg
The amount of chemicals in the nappies are a big concern, the fact they take up to 500 years to decompose, the amount of trees and oil that is needed to make a disposable etc.
I would never wear paper or plastic pants so why should my child?
Hannah
ETA- In the times we have had to use Pampers, some of them have exploded leaving the gel stuck to her bits, if she had been a child to put everything in her mouth, she could have swallowed the gel- it would only take 5g to be very harmful to her.
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scoobymcdoo
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http://www.theecologist.org/archive_det ... ent_id=493
An interesting article with a breakdown of chemicals used in a disposable wipe. We use reusable wipes or just hang her under the tap- even at 25 months old and 10kg.
I have used reusable wipes for cleaning my bike, I have seen how they strip the grease and dirt from my bike, if they can clean my bike brilliantly then what can they do to a baby's skin.
I am certainly not trying to make you use cloth, I am just trying to make people aware of the negative side of using disposables.
Hannah
An interesting article with a breakdown of chemicals used in a disposable wipe. We use reusable wipes or just hang her under the tap- even at 25 months old and 10kg.
I have used reusable wipes for cleaning my bike, I have seen how they strip the grease and dirt from my bike, if they can clean my bike brilliantly then what can they do to a baby's skin.
I am certainly not trying to make you use cloth, I am just trying to make people aware of the negative side of using disposables.
Hannah
Hi,
This is from one of the links posted by Hannah:
( http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/yo ... 6/1072214/ )
I think the study is from the most neutral source and thus probably reliable. The results are summed in the first sentence below. The studied systems were cloth nappies, disposables and clothes + laundry service. Based on this, there is no "environmental reason" to use reusable nappies. I'm a bit surprised myself, but obviously electricity and clean water are "expensive" and on the other hand large scale manufacturing is quite efficient.
Conclusions
For the three nappy systems studied, there was no significant difference between
any of the environmental impacts – that is, overall no system clearly had a better or
worse environmental performance, although the life cycle stages that are the main
source for these impacts are different for each system.
The study was supported by a stakeholder group representing the interested parties
and is the most comprehensive, independent study of its kind. It should be used as
the basis for any further studies comparing the impacts of different types of
disposable or reusable nappies.
The most significant environmental impacts for all three nappy systems were on
resource depletion, acidification and global warming. For one child, over two and a
half years, these impacts are roughly comparable with driving a car between 1300
and 2200 miles.
The study has been critically reviewed by an external expert appointed by the
Environment Agency. The review and how its findings were addressed is included
in the report.
-M
This is from one of the links posted by Hannah:
( http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/yo ... 6/1072214/ )
I think the study is from the most neutral source and thus probably reliable. The results are summed in the first sentence below. The studied systems were cloth nappies, disposables and clothes + laundry service. Based on this, there is no "environmental reason" to use reusable nappies. I'm a bit surprised myself, but obviously electricity and clean water are "expensive" and on the other hand large scale manufacturing is quite efficient.
Conclusions
For the three nappy systems studied, there was no significant difference between
any of the environmental impacts – that is, overall no system clearly had a better or
worse environmental performance, although the life cycle stages that are the main
source for these impacts are different for each system.
The study was supported by a stakeholder group representing the interested parties
and is the most comprehensive, independent study of its kind. It should be used as
the basis for any further studies comparing the impacts of different types of
disposable or reusable nappies.
The most significant environmental impacts for all three nappy systems were on
resource depletion, acidification and global warming. For one child, over two and a
half years, these impacts are roughly comparable with driving a car between 1300
and 2200 miles.
The study has been critically reviewed by an external expert appointed by the
Environment Agency. The review and how its findings were addressed is included
in the report.
-M