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EP
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Post by EP » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:17 pm

Can I just stop going there???
Since you don´t get unemployment benefits and don´t expect to find a job I don´t see why not.



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Post by ennui » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:45 pm

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Post by Julichka » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:01 pm

what about if im just 19 and didnt work anywhere (not in finland either), could i start getting the money as soon as i register in the unemployment office?or do i have to go to any job they'll find me? ( 0 finnish language for me :cry: )

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Post by Hank W. » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:48 pm

ailema4ever wrote: Can I just stop going there???
Well, yes, BUT... ten the next time you want any benefits anykind or anything anywhere relating to anything, you won't be in the computer as unemployed.

So like "Finnish course" in Sodankylä. No you cannot come - you're not unemployed...

So better just hitch the reindeers up front...
Cheers, Hank W.
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Post by ailema4ever » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:16 pm

Hi, Hank!!!

I see. THX SO MUCH for your info. So I guess I should just suck it up and go there every 3 months then. *nodding*

Julichka, I think you shouldn't rely on getting the unemployment benefit ASAP 'coz look at me. I married a Finn but still no unemployment benefit even though I registered myself to the employment office a few days after I moved here. I have no job 'coz I can't speak Finnish. I've just begun learning Finnish by myself 3 months ago, so my Finnish knowledge is still so bad. So it's better to save up lots of money before you move to Finland JUST IN CASE.

AMEL

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Post by Goldie » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:39 pm

Oh great, another post by an expatriate looking for a free handout! :roll:

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Post by mCowboy » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:51 pm

Goldie wrote:Oh great, another post by an expatriate looking for a free handout! :roll:
shuddup and get back to work, so you can pay more taxes and make life easier for expats looking for handouts... :lol:
Get in there...

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Post by cockney » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:00 pm

Evening all!
Julichka, are you in Finland? Yes? so you register at the employment office when you receive your residence permit and social security number, they will give an appointment to go back to discuss your job seekers plan, you sign this and they will send you a copy, the plan is for 3 years, integration plan, to give you a chance to settle here, learn the language etc, they will also explain to you also about Kela benefits but the amount will depend on your husbands income!
If you live in Helsinki you should go to the Haapaniemi office, it's for immigrants. If you are given a course from the employment office, language etc, you will receive a daily allowance of 7euro so 140euro per month for all the time that attend the course!
If you are not in Finland it is better that you get married in your country, then legalize the marriage certificate etc, then apply for an entry visa ( Shengen visa ) to enter Finland, they have to issue this visa free of charge and as soon as possible they only need to see your passport and legalized marriage certificate, this is EU law, and your future husband is an finnish and EU citizen yes?Also your husband will need a certificate of no impediment issued in Finland, also you may have to register your marriage at the registery office in Helsinki before they issue your entry visa, and then of course you can apply for your residence permit when you arrive in Finland, that's the law!

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Post by cockney » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:08 pm

Here we go again!
Free handouts, and what about her finnish husband? working! paying tax!
What's the problem then?
Anyway any benifits received here are just enough to survive on, you have to spend it, food, travel, clothes etc etc! so it all goes back into the finnish system yes!

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Post by mCowboy » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:18 pm

cockney wrote:Here we go again!
Free handouts, and what about her finnish husband? working! paying tax!
What's the problem then?
Anyway any benifits received here are just enough to survive on, you have to spend it, food, travel, clothes etc etc! so it all goes back into the finnish system yes!
you're missing the point here. The idea of a society is that the citizens pay for their own way and tax so that IF someone needs TEMPORARY aid, they would be covered for a limited period of time.

The idea is not to have others work so that some people can live off them...
Get in there...

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Post by cockney » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:19 pm

Sodankylä!
Not much chance of a finnish language course there! And more chance of a penguin finding a job!
Kela benifits, depends on your husbands income, here they say there is a level of income we need to live on, depends on how many kids in the family etc, so if the houseold income is above this level then Kela pay you nothing!
Don't forget you speak english very useful there as i would think not many english speakers there in Sodankylä, so they need someone to teach them yes? Worth a try!

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Post by Julichka » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:58 pm

So i understood that the KELA unemployment benefits depend on the income of the family...? well my housband is a student and doesnt have any job. so is there a better chance for us to get the benefits then?

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Post by cockney » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:42 pm

Yes, if you are both unemployed you have no income, so you will get help from Kela, but you must register first as a jobseeker at the employment office! Your husband can get a student grant?
Also make an appointment with your local social worker, they can help with money, rent etc if you have nothing and are desperate!

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Post by cockney » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:03 pm

Free handouts!
So what about the people that can't work, disabled etc? The idea of society is to help those in need, otherwise we wouldn't need Kela and the social office all their staff would be out of a job!
If you have a job in Finland you are lucky, many people are not so lucky but they and their families still have to eat! Temporary aid! not many people here only need that but long term aid, no work here.
Tax is not only to pay for unemployment benifits, it's also to pay for the health service, roads, building, and for all the money the goverment waste on funding a mickey mouse armed forces! On top of all that Finland gets well funded by the EU!

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Post by Goldie » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:26 pm

cockney wrote:Free handouts!
So what about the people that can't work, disabled etc? The idea of society is to help those in need, otherwise we wouldn't need Kela and the social office all their staff would be out of a job!
If you have a job in Finland you are lucky, many people are not so lucky but they and their families still have to eat! Temporary aid! not many people here only need that but long term aid, no work here.
Tax is not only to pay for unemployment benifits, it's also to pay for the health service, roads, building, and for all the money the goverment waste on funding a mickey mouse armed forces! On top of all that Finland gets well funded by the EU!
I’m not referring to the disabled or people truly in need. I’m referring to the people who coast through life by sucking on the government's tit instead of trying to better themselves.


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