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Pavlor
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Post by Pavlor » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:22 am

mCowboy wrote:
Pavlor wrote: Nothing against you, mCowboy. I think you underestimate me in that department. Plus, you obviously overestimate my feelings towards you. You aren't important enough... I genuinely asked if you were challenged as you seem never to understand what I write. If you look at my posts, they are, for the most part, genuine. I word posts with intention. Yes, I may have strong opinions, and I say what I think, never beating around the bush, but I fire people up and get people to say stuff.

Get over yourself mCowboy.
If I overestimated your feelings towards me, why did you mention in another thread that you've been talking about me with your friends etc. I think you're just on a quest to find your evil advisory which you think you can then masterfully disgrace in front the people and you picked me because I seem represent to you the world that you hate. For someone who says he doesn't presume, you presume awfully lot.

There's a difference between saying what you think and provoking people just for your own pleasure. You've said that in more than one of your posts. That's just sad, that someone has to get their kicks by that way.
Delusional AND paranoid. Dreary me...

I do not provoke to get my kicks, mCowboy. I provoke to get response, especially regarding higher order societal thinking (i.e., what is not considered the norm by the majority, social justice and equality, just to make things crystal clear).

The way it is handled by the *darlings* of this forum kills me every time! :lol: Mark I tells me this place would be a better place without me, you feel I have something against you (I don't btw), and Hank, well, he just thinks I'm a "condescending besserwisser" (takes one to know one I suppose). I realise that for you lot, English is not your native language, so concepts and subtlties and nuances of language may well be lost or misinterpreted.

What *IS* sad is the fact that we are bickering when a more urgent and important issue is at stake on this thread.

Believe me when I say I am on *NO* quest to find my nemesis on this forum. No one here could possibly fill that position. And yes, that could be understood as condescending before you try and snipe back. It could also be interpreted differently, however, and the way I meant it to be interpreted is that because I am on no quest to find my nemesis, it can never be filled. Do you see what I mean mCowboy?



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Post by Amandine.K » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:30 am

What about you take it to pms? :roll:

No offense to the original poster but I also think he needs a kick up his arse and stop whining on the forum on how to find a solution. It won't come from here I'm afraid, it needs to come from you.

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Post by mCowboy » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:48 am

Pavlor wrote:
mCowboy wrote:
Pavlor wrote: Nothing against you, mCowboy. I think you underestimate me in that department. Plus, you obviously overestimate my feelings towards you. You aren't important enough... I genuinely asked if you were challenged as you seem never to understand what I write. If you look at my posts, they are, for the most part, genuine. I word posts with intention. Yes, I may have strong opinions, and I say what I think, never beating around the bush, but I fire people up and get people to say stuff.

Get over yourself mCowboy.
If I overestimated your feelings towards me, why did you mention in another thread that you've been talking about me with your friends etc. I think you're just on a quest to find your evil advisory which you think you can then masterfully disgrace in front the people and you picked me because I seem represent to you the world that you hate. For someone who says he doesn't presume, you presume awfully lot.

There's a difference between saying what you think and provoking people just for your own pleasure. You've said that in more than one of your posts. That's just sad, that someone has to get their kicks by that way.
Delusional AND paranoid. Dreary me...

I do not provoke to get my kicks, mCowboy. I provoke to get response, especially regarding higher order societal thinking (i.e., what is not considered the norm by the majority, social justice and equality, just to make things crystal clear).

The way it is handled by the *darlings* of this forum kills me every time! :lol: Mark I tells me this place would be a better place without me, you feel I have something against you (I don't btw), and Hank, well, he just thinks I'm a "condescending besserwisser" (takes one to know one I suppose). I realise that for you lot, English is not your native language, so concepts and subtlties and nuances of language may well be lost or misinterpreted.

What *IS* sad is the fact that we are bickering when a more urgent and important issue is at stake on this thread.

Believe me when I say I am on *NO* quest to find my nemesis on this forum. No one here could possibly fill that position. And yes, that could be understood as condescending before you try and snipe back. It could also be interpreted differently, however, and the way I meant it to be interpreted is that because I am on no quest to find my nemesis, it can never be filled. Do you see what I mean mCowboy?
I can see that you're arrogant and condescending and you're trying to use this forum as a playground for your overinflated intellectual ego by belittling others and by provoking people unnecessarily.

I'm not delusional; you said explicitly in one thread about that "I've talked about you with my friends and they all agree blaa blaa".

It's very hypocritical for you to comment that "What *IS* sad is the fact that we are bickering when a more urgent and important issue is at stake on this thread", when all you done is criticizing and not helping or providing advice. I haven't seen you providing hardly any support or information to those who ask it.

I wonder what people really want more; practical advice (which you don't provide) or provoking critique (which you provide plenty of)?

I have my opinions, which some people may not like, but I don't push those to others, but at least I try to help as much as I can. I don't attack people unprovoked (unlike you) and try to remain civil, whereas you start to get personal right away (as seen in the previous threads with you).
Get in there...

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Post by EP » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:06 pm

I think the USA is a bit closer and more useful, wouldn't you marry a nice American girl?
Sure. But it is way harder to meet American girls. They don´t have charter flights with American girls flying to Cuba from the US. They have from Finland, planeloads of Finnish girls wanting to learn how to dance to the rhythm and sip Mojitos under a palmtree..

I am still saying that Zakarias should comtact that Cuba/Finland association. He would find a shoulder there.

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Post by Zakaria » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:07 pm

I THINK I AM CAUSING MANY ARGUMENTS HERE WITH WHAT I AM WRITTING ....I DO APOLOGISE GUYS ....I DID NOT MEAN TO CAUSE ALL THIS CONFLICT...EVERYONE OF US IS ENTITLED TO HIS OR HER OPINION.WE ALL GO THROUGH DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES , SOME EXPERIENCES WORSE OR BETTER THAN OTHERS....U GET PPLE SUPPORTING YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW WAT U GOING THROUGH OR HAD SIMILAR SITUAITON TO U AND THEY KNOW HWO YOU FEEL , OTHER THEY NEVER BEEN THROUGH ANY SIMILAR TO THIS SITUAITON AND THEY START TO SAY THEIR OPINION CAN BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE ONE , THAT IS FINE BY ME.I ACCEPT ALL COMMENT AND TAKE THEM TO BOARD ....i have received a PHONE CALL THIS MORNNING FROM A FRIEND ...WHO IS WORKING IN THE PLACE THAT I HAD CONTRACT OF WORK...SHE SAID THAT MY WIFE SPOKE TO HER BOSS AND HE TOLD HER THAT MY WIFE TRYING TO GET RID OF ME .....AND SHE IS NOT EVEN SLEEPING LAST NIGHT AT HOME.SO I BELEIVED HER , HOW SHE FIND OUT THAT MY WIFE DID NOT SLEEP LAST NITE AT HOME ...SO NOW THIS WEEK WILL BE THE HARD WEEK ....YESTERDAY SHE SAID THAT SHE IS GONA EAT WITH ME IN SAME TABLE AND SHE DID NOT ....SHE IS TRYING TO GET ME OUT OF THE HOUSE ....AND WORK IN BLACK MARKET ...SHE SAYS SHE IS GOING TO SLEEP AND LOOK AFTER THE BABE OF ONE HER FRIEND AND HER MOTHER WAS IN HOSPITAL ....THIS MORNNIGN CHATTING TO ONE OF HER FRIEND SHE IS TELLINGME IS NOT TRUE.....ALL THIS INFORMAITON IS TELLINGME THAT SHE IS PLANNING FOR SOMETHING THIS WEEK.....
I AM READY FOR THE WORSE THIS WEEK.
GOD BLESS

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Post by Zakaria » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:12 pm

i am prepared for the worse now ...i know where there social centre is ....a friend who live close by and he is moslim man he offer to help ...by findingme an accomodaiton .....and i take it from there ........god bless

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Post by Zakaria » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:00 pm

I PHONED the office for legal advice ... i was told that my wife has no right to kickme out of the house as we are married couple , she needs a court decision to be able to do that.
Also i was told that she no right for abortion as she passed the 12 weeks and she is 4 months pregnant , she need to get permission from another departement to do abortion and she needs to give strong reasons why she wanted to do the abortion.the only weak part of my case is that i have been for short time in finland ...and i did not get my permit yet....they did not tellme how long will take them to giveme an answer about my permit.i am still waiting for it.this is incase if my wife did not make a phone a call and cancel everything.....i do understand her games now and they seems to be more clear everyday for me.she lost the custody for her first child with her first ex husband and in finland the mother keep child ,,,at that the time her ex husband was not working .......
she deported the second husband who is foreigner before he get his permit of residency...and now she cant do the same repeat and trying to do it in different way by askingme to work in black market and make phone call to the police and say he is no respecting the rule and the law of this land how canhe respect them if he gets papers.
i am not working in black market , i am not moving from home and i am the father of the child ....and i will fight until the end and get my self sorted and know my full right in this land.
i read some comment previosuly about my self that i am WUMP ...i am not WUMP but i am a person who beleive in diplomacy ...very diplomatic , i beleive in communication and intelectuality ....i tried them with her and is not working ....my wife has no reason agaisnt me and she is getting sick of that ....that is why she is not stable , she is trying so hard to find one .....sometime she says i do abortion now uhave to go back ur country , sometime she says i have cancer u need to go back to ur country ....sometime she says we need money for food and work in balck market .....she doesnt know wat do as i treat with respect and i speak to her with politeness ...maybe she doesnt love me ...she should say that before with getting a babe involved ....i came married to finland now i have family which is my child ,,, i will fight for this child no matter wat .................i have principles in life and i respect them.

also i want to answer another comment said about me that i got my wife pregnat quick well my friend if u r married you make love to ur wife , she is not prostitue or one night stand so i can be careful not to get her pregnant , she is my wife and pregnancy happen any times , some couple try 20 yrs to get hsi wife pregnant and doest work and in my case was quick there is no harm in that ..

Finland was not my choice to immigrate and i never thought of immigrating to finland in my life ....pple when they think about immigration they want to go to usa etc....at least in this country i be able to speak english and spanish and integrate in that society.i will never choose finland to live if i had to choose from countries to immigrate to.
my marriage was very genuine and with good intention and destiny.
i beleived everything wat my wife said and i did not know anything about finland ,i gave the benefit of doubt to everything wat she said ....
if see my wife leaving the airport after her first visit in the first time you would beleive that she loves as i did ....she was crying ...

but hey this is life ...i am typing my personal life here ...that is the only to get things out of my chest....but my wife does it in different way by going out with friend and i am left out alone in the house even sometime with out any food and she goes partying with her friends ....until midnight she comes home with lot of smoke smell....

after my experience i sitll beleive that some genine finnish pple out there ....and i am with the wrong one.......

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look at the link and u get the message

Post by Zakaria » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:21 pm

now i post this link for you and look at the clipp and you will get the message ....if u understand the words would be more better but if u dont that the images will be enough to get the message
here is the link :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG1HjGqS ... ed&search=

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Post by Sara » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:00 pm

Im glad you got good advise and know where you stand. There isnt really much you can do now, but keep being pleasant to your wife and waiting for the work permit.

I glad you dont hate Finns afte this. Most of them are lovely. I have a great Finnish husband who would do anything for me and I have lovely Finnish friends. But like any nationality or any country you go to there will always be the one or two people who enjoy making life difficult for others.

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Re: ADVICE

Post by Hank W. » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:40 pm

Zakaria wrote:.i do understand her games now and they seems to be more clear everyday for me.she lost the custody for her first child with her first ex husband and in finland the mother keep child ,,,at that the time her ex husband was not working .......
she deported the second husband who is foreigner before he get his permit of residency...and now she cant do the same repeat and trying to do it in different way
Oh man, I think you really are the living example of how you marry a different person what the person really is :shock: Oh man...
Cheers, Hank W.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.

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Post by Zakaria » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:42 pm

i went for walk around the blok one one hour ago as i was bored at home then i spotted my wife standing in the bus staition and she was backing off to hide so i cant see her ...i went bit far and then i turn and i notice she is looking at me ...she has bag with her .....
i came back home and i saw her best friend online and askedme where is my wife i said she went to look after child of her friend as the mother of her friend is ill in the hospital ...then she goes: well ur wife toldme she went to look after her children because she is working ....

i am wondering how many lies said to me in the past.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnVvAheO ... ed&search=

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Re: ADVICE

Post by mCowboy » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:55 pm

Hank W. wrote:
Zakaria wrote:.i do understand her games now and they seems to be more clear everyday for me.she lost the custody for her first child with her first ex husband and in finland the mother keep child ,,,at that the time her ex husband was not working .......
she deported the second husband who is foreigner before he get his permit of residency...and now she cant do the same repeat and trying to do it in different way
Oh man, I think you really are the living example of how you marry a different person what the person really is :shock: Oh man...
isnt't that what people warn that everything changes the day you get married... :lol:
Get in there...

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Post by Sara » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:24 pm

Zakaria wrote: i am wondering how many lies said to me in the past.
What does it matter? You seem to want to stop there and with her no matter how she treats you.

Personally I think Id have gone back home by now. Theres no point in pushing something which is only going to get worse.

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Post by Sara » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:24 pm

Zakaria wrote: i am wondering how many lies said to me in the past.
What does it matter? You seem to want to stop there and with her no matter how she treats you.

Personally I think Id have gone back home by now. Theres no point in pushing something which is only going to get worse.

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Post by Pavlor » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:28 pm

mCowboy wrote: I have my opinions, which some people may not like, but I don't push those to others, but at least I try to help as much as I can. I don't attack people unprovoked (unlike you) and try to remain civil, whereas you start to get personal right away (as seen in the previous threads with you).
Good that you have it sorted so clearly mCowboy! Much better a person than I am. Well done. :wink:


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