Fireplaces: Tulikivi or Kermansavi?
Also, its always safe to install a CO detector + a fire alarm detector + a smoke detector..rinso wrote:I should pick the design you like best.
When heating, one should close the chimney after some time, when there are still hot coals in the oven. (the right moment to do so takes some practice) So it is not usual to leave the oven unattended for to long.
To me it seems, that the answer depends on what you want to do with it, i.e. do you want to use it for heating, additional heating or just for fun. If you want to use it for heating purposes, whether fully or additionally, I would opt for a tulikivi oven, since they do seem to be retaining the warmth a bit better. Hubby and I bought a tulikivi oven a few month ago, and we are using it now to heat approx. 80 m2. We light the fire every evening, using 1.5 - 2 times the load of one of them wood carrying thingies. So far we did not need any additional heating, and we are very comfortable. By the way, our tulikivi oven was made by Nunnauuni not Tulikivi, since the type and size we wanted was cheaper, the stone was thicker, and it was easier to include in our kitchen. If you decide to get a tulikivi oven, you might want to check them out.
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network_engineer
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Hi!
Our main objectives were:
1. Reduce the heating oil costs (i.e. use the fireplace as an alternative). The price of heating-oil is continuously rising.
2. Keep the electricity costs down (frequent heating using oil takes electricity as well, i.e. the burner needs it). I remember reading somewhere that electricity costs are going to go up starting next year.
3. Ensure heating if we have an outage.
Now, those with a varaavatakka, what is your experience? Does have a fireplace installed meet all the objectives? Some people were saying (i.e. outside the forum) that it may not make sense e.g. if you don't have your own forest for the wood and that wood can cost as much as 50/cubic.
One other question: How value to the house do we add by installing one?
Other views?
Cheers.
Our main objectives were:
1. Reduce the heating oil costs (i.e. use the fireplace as an alternative). The price of heating-oil is continuously rising.
2. Keep the electricity costs down (frequent heating using oil takes electricity as well, i.e. the burner needs it). I remember reading somewhere that electricity costs are going to go up starting next year.
3. Ensure heating if we have an outage.
Now, those with a varaavatakka, what is your experience? Does have a fireplace installed meet all the objectives? Some people were saying (i.e. outside the forum) that it may not make sense e.g. if you don't have your own forest for the wood and that wood can cost as much as 50/cubic.
One other question: How value to the house do we add by installing one?
Other views?
Cheers.
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meplusthree
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I believe that the soapstone has the best thermal properties for a 'storage' fire place, however I may have been brain washed by the
tulikivi brochures. Probabably there is not a lot in it between the various options.
I have a Tulikivi corner model and I am really pleased with it.
Here are some things to consider when making your selection.
Try and locate it in a central location.
You will need heavy duty concrete foundations, depends on the weight of the model you choose.
The are also rules about the chimney and how high it must be in relation to the apex of the roof - depends on you roof layout.
I had few problems in getting the thing to suck properly after it had not been used for a while, tried the light small fire in the ash cleaining chamber - not so easy and smokey - now I get the thing going by using a hair dryer far simpler and no smoke, just remove the cleaning plug open the chimney slide insert hair- dryer for 10 mins and its sucking like a good un !.
You can also get similar fireplaces made from bricks.
Also if you have to buy the wood it can be expensive .
tulikivi brochures. Probabably there is not a lot in it between the various options.
I have a Tulikivi corner model and I am really pleased with it.
Here are some things to consider when making your selection.
Try and locate it in a central location.
You will need heavy duty concrete foundations, depends on the weight of the model you choose.
The are also rules about the chimney and how high it must be in relation to the apex of the roof - depends on you roof layout.
I had few problems in getting the thing to suck properly after it had not been used for a while, tried the light small fire in the ash cleaining chamber - not so easy and smokey - now I get the thing going by using a hair dryer far simpler and no smoke, just remove the cleaning plug open the chimney slide insert hair- dryer for 10 mins and its sucking like a good un !.
You can also get similar fireplaces made from bricks.
Also if you have to buy the wood it can be expensive .