Goverment threat to Tehy
Goverment threat to Tehy
Who is governing in Finland Hugo Chavez?Fidel Castro?How can a democraticaly elected goverment in Europe change a law to force resigned workers to go back to work in this case nurses for whatever reason.If the Finnish goverment put this law through their partners in Europe are going to wonder if there has been a revolution in calm,stable Finland has it become a banana republic overnight.The nurses must get their rise they deserve it.They will win this dispute and they have support from around the world as they have a just cause..Viva la revolucion!
Hei calm down che guevara. What are you talking about?
If the goverment puts any law through I am sure it will be given due consideration and it can be subject to evaluation from the parliament and the courts and lastly the voters. I have yet to see banana trees in this republicIf the Finnish goverment put this law through
Re: Goverment threat to Tehy
That's what governments are for.Alexander wrote:Who is governing in Finland Hugo Chavez?Fidel Castro?How can a democraticaly elected goverment in Europe change a law to force resigned workers to go back to work in this case nurses for whatever reason.
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The government and big business will replace the nurses, there is someone ready to work for banana picker wages.ajdias wrote: I have yet to see banana trees in this republic
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sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.
And What does Alexander in Spain have to do with Tehy..(check his other 7 posts!")..raamv wrote:hmm yeah adjias is right!!
What does EU have to do with Finnish Law, especially that deals with this state!! and Not the EU!!
As far as I am aware the proposed legislation is excactly that.."proposed" contingency, just in case negotiations break down, and patients lives are at real risk!"
If the Government did not have some contingency plan, and the nurse do walk out, and Ambulances arrive at the hospital door with patients ..who die because no staff are there...The WORLD's press would savage the Finnish government for not having any contingency plan.
People do not become more irritable as they grow old - they simply stop making the effort to avoid annoying others.
What a joke this is
Come Monday what sort of patient care are nurses going to give being forced into doing their job
Added cost to their inability to sort this mess outAirlifting Patients
Meanwhile hospitals have begun sending patients abroad ahead of the mass resignations.
On Wednesday, two pregnant women will probably be flown to Uppsala, Sweden, for care. Doctors say it is safer for the women to travel now than to transport premature babies in incubators later.
Some small children may be sent to Germany later this week. A major operation to airlift patients abroad is likely this weekend.
Come Monday what sort of patient care are nurses going to give being forced into doing their job
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I don't like the idea of forcing the nurses to work either, but their demands are simply ridiculous. First of all the nurses have been screwed by the last two/three governments when SDP was in power, this current government has done at least something to raise the nurses salaries. Now they suddenly demand a 24% raise all at once which would go up to 500€ per month, which is a bit too much IMO.
In the last elections, the nurses were promised a raise, but there's a limit to everything.
Found a link It says the 24% raise would raise the costs by 1 billion. The nurses already rejected the 12,7% raise which would have risen the costs by 536 million €. As I said, the nurses demand a bit too much 
In the last elections, the nurses were promised a raise, but there's a limit to everything.
Found a link It says the 24% raise would raise the costs by 1 billion. The nurses already rejected the 12,7% raise which would have risen the costs by 536 million €. As I said, the nurses demand a bit too much
They were promised a pay rise and they deserve it, their pay levels are ridiculous compared to the rest of Europe (and so are the teachers). The health system has only survived because there are so many WOMEN working in there. If the health system were dominated by men the wages would have increased years ago. (Same with education: a primary school teacher in Espoo told me her net salary would be more than double in the UK, BTW she is a Brit working in Finland so she is not guessing the numbers).
Tarja Halonen has cancelled her trip to NY so she can stay behind and sign the new Act after it goes through Parliament. Looks like it will go through. I hope the public will support the nurses. I do, and am willing to go and empty bed pans in Jorvi if necessary (BTW does anyone know if there is an organised voluntary service for helping out during this kind of situation?)
Tarja Halonen has cancelled her trip to NY so she can stay behind and sign the new Act after it goes through Parliament. Looks like it will go through. I hope the public will support the nurses. I do, and am willing to go and empty bed pans in Jorvi if necessary (BTW does anyone know if there is an organised voluntary service for helping out during this kind of situation?)
Yes of course!Liam1 wrote:Also - while not commenting on the rights and wrongs of the Nurses' case, I think you will find that most countries have a law restricting strikes for key personnel.
That's one of the reasons the wages are low in the first place.
But one has to be an employee to strike. The radical step here is that former employees are forced.
Sounds more like certain key personnel are to become serfs, if you ask me.
Of course, all the extra money that the nurses earn will go straight back into the economy, either through income tax or simply through an increase in purchasing power (eg nurses buying stuff with their extra cash).Kezmale wrote:It says the 24% raise would raise the costs by 1 billion. The nurses already rejected the 12,7% raise which would have risen the costs by 536 million €. As I said, the nurses demand a bit too much
Large numbers of nurses are already leaving the country to work abroad. This is a sunk cost for the economy: Finland pays for their education and training and then other countries reap the benefits. As a tax-payer I would rather give them the extra pay so they stay here and work. The alternative is importing nursing expertise from the Far East.
