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Looking for a job in FINANCE

Post by veron » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:17 pm

Moi everybody,

I am looking for a job / internship in the finance world (Banks, stock market, consultancy,...). Could you please provide any information about that.

Thanks



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Post by raamv » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:37 pm

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Post by veron » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:34 am

Thanks,

To let you know, HEBC and NYSE they don't have any branch in Finland. It's too badddd! I need an International finance company. I found some but they require Finnish!!!

It's seems that finance sector is not well developed in Finland. I lived in different countries and I can declare that. Banks looks like bazzar in here!!
What do you think?

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Post by Mook » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:45 am

What about Nordea? I know of a couple of non-Finnish speakers that either work or have worked there.
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Post by Hank W. » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:35 pm

veron wrote: Banks looks like bazzar in here!!
Thats only because they have old people bringing sand into the foyer.:lol:
veron wrote: What do you think?
We don't have that many jobs in feeding the carrier pigeons or pony express riding with cheque delivery...
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Post by rinso » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:08 pm

I need an International finance company. I found some but they require Finnish!!!
Does that strike you as strange?
A branch of an international company in Finland probably target the Finnish market. Hence, you need to speak Finnish.

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Post by EP » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:27 pm

Banks looks like bazzar in here!!
In what way?

They require Finnish if they have Finnish-speaking customers. People want to understand what happens to their money.

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Post by Rosamunda » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:09 pm

veron wrote:Thanks,

To let you know, HEBC and NYSE they don't have any branch in Finland. It's too badddd! I need an International finance company. I found some but they require Finnish!!!

It's seems that finance sector is not well developed in Finland. I lived in different countries and I can declare that. Banks looks like bazzar in here!!
What do you think?
Most Finnish banks require GOOD Swedish as well as Finnish. The banks are owned by Swedes, Danes etc and nearly all the business communication is done in a sort of "Skandi-talk" that they can all understand.

You would find it easier to get a Finance job in a multinational corporation where the business language is English. Neste Oil was advertising for controllers and business controllers in today's Helsingin Sanomat. The company language in Neste is English. Similar situation in Nokia and the paper companies....

But if you are really fixed on a bank job then I think you will find it difficult in Finland.

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Post by raamv » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:49 am

veron wrote:Thanks,

To let you know, HEBC and NYSE they don't have any branch in Finland. It's too badddd! I need an International finance company. I found some but they require Finnish!!!

It's seems that finance sector is not well developed in Finland. I lived in different countries and I can declare that. Banks looks like bazzar in here!!
What do you think?
unfortunately, your knowledge of what a Well developed financial system is not global!!!

You have not bothered to answer the questions on Why the banks look like bazaars here?
the HSBC and NYSE link was on purpose to see if you understand which places to look for jobs!! :twisted: :roll:
unfortunately, jobs in finance sectors here Do require Finnish unless you totally interact only with an IBM mainframe not connected to the main network or to the internet.. :twisted: :roll:
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Post by veron » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:04 pm

Hey,

Firstable, thank you raamv for your test :oops: I failed!!
Well, maybe I need to clarify some thing. I am not looking to work in commercial banks and particularly in the front office :) Of course in need to speak Finnish in order to serve the client!

Coming back to the question: why banks look like bazzar?
I first would like to ask you raamv if you held an account in other banks except the Finnish one? If you didn't, let me then tell you that in Spain you can open an account without even been in legal situation.
In France, as student you open and get the first day a cheque, visa card...
In Belgium, the same as France! You don't pay any charges if you are <26years old. FREEEEEEEEEEEEE

And what do you get in the Finnish banks? Only chargessssssss and complications.
You need a social number in order to speak with a bank employee.
I asked them if I can have a visa card. They refuse. I asked for an account statement, I had to pay 3,40 euros.
If you need to put cash into your account, you need to make a queue whereas in Belgium/ France, you have a nice machine outside of the bank where you can put your money at any time!
Transfer of money cost also in Finland and so on!!

I am sure you will say that they need to cover there charges. Yes, you are right! That’s exactly why I sad they are like bazzar. They make money on the expenses of their clients. They are not stock market oriented? They don’t seem to focus on investing and getting money in other way than charging for every stupid document their clients.

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Post by Rosamunda » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:12 pm

Believe me... I have had numerous accounts in French banks (Credit Mutuel, BNP, Credit Agricole) and in the UK (Lloyds) and I have accounts here in Finland.

With Nordea, I can do ALL my banking on-line in English. I can see my bank manager 6 days a week almost any time of day. In Finland. I can transfer money all over the world without leaving my home.

In France.... aaargggh! My French bank refuses to read emails. They are rude. Their on-line banking does not allow cross-boundary (IBAN) transfers. All the people are rude and only answer the phone when they want to ie: never on Wednesdays (too busy) or Mondays (closed) or the day preceeding a bank holiday or bank holidays (there are many), nor any day between 12:30 and 14:15 (closed for lunch). And they are rude. And they are expensive and all their cash dispensers are infiltrated by organised crime gangs.

I respect your frustration at not being able to find a job (BTW you need Swedish and Finnish for most back office jobs too) I don't think you have a clue about banking in Finland.

Cash transactions are minimal in Finland. I never carry cash. I can't remember the last time I paid cash into my account, or took cash out. There is no need. Up here we do everything on-line and pay using bank cards. At least I do.

BTW... no such thing as a "Finnish" bank, (FT referred to "Finnish Banking" as an "oxymoron"). They are all dominated by foreign investors with majority shareholdings (Nordea, OPO, Sampo circa 80%). And the ECB ranked Finland 8th out of 25 EU countries for cost efficiency in the banking sector.

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Post by veron » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:45 pm

I think you are the only one who is saying that about the French Banks. I refered to French, Belgium and the spanich one!! Let's say that the French busterd are not answering back to your emails. do you think you are the only one who is sending Emails ( don't forget the size of the population). I think you are confusing now efficiency, good services and free of charge services.
HERE YOU PAY for everything.
The online service you are speaking about is so efficient in France/ Belgium. You don't get there a piece of paper full of numbers you need to fill in order to access to your account. You get a nice machine with a password thatgive you access to your account via the the changing passeword generated. IT S SO SECURE like that or no?

Concerning your ranking, I think that you need to correct it, because i didn't find such a think :(

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Post by Hank W. » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:57 pm

Yeah, that securID thing is quite nifty, but as you said: "look at the amount of population"... they don't have the money to shell out for new toys. And yes, they used to be free services in the 1980's, after everything went bankrupt in the 1990's its been only the "cheap and efficient self-service" as you know ;)

And because of banks in Spain and other places were being that lax, there is now new EU wide money-laundering rules. The problem is Finland is always a stickler for rules, so they implement them always at the fullest. So you need to show ID these days even putting money into your own account :shock:

And yes, there is this kind of a slot in my front door you can come put money into, no problem ;)
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Post by interleukin » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:58 pm

I think you are the only one who is saying that about the French Banks.
I have to agree with Penelope on this one (yes, I have had bank accounts in France). Ok, you pay for things in the Finnish bank, but you get professional bank services, unlike in some other countries (I have had bank accounts in quite a few countries).

You get what you pay for.

Plus, you dont think the French banks (or banks in other countries) dont charge you for everything, do you? They just make it part of other fees so you dont know about these costs.[/quote]
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