Is this normal weather for the time of year?

oscard · Post by **oscard** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:23 pm

Hello to everyone on the forume!
I have been in northern Finland for a few weeks and I am amazed how warm it is for December, often above zero. Over in Sweden it's been well below zero even in Stockholm, now minus 8 I see.

Is this normal for December? I am wondering if there will even be much snow or skating this winter..

Oscar

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mCowboy · Post by **mCowboy** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:43 pm

About every other Xmas in the metro area is more or less without snow (as commented on the news today).

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:07 pm

Last year it was the same as this in Helsinki. It didn't really snow until mid way through January and it never got seriously cold.

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:42 pm

IIRC the coldest we had in Espoo last winter was about -22 C and that was only for a couple of days.

That is not seriously cold, at least not in my experience.

karen · Post by **karen** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:21 pm

It was during the ski holiday. My brother was here and I was glad it was so
cold since he'd spent so much money on his long johns.

littlefrank · Post by **littlefrank** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:26 pm

'I was glad it was so cold since he'd spent so much money on his long johns.'

I told my ex that there was no way I would wear long johns, lasted 3 weeks.

Matula · Post by **Matula** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:37 pm

Hooray for Global Warming!

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:51 am

We had "Black Christmas" here in central Finland in 1972, 1992, 2006 and it's looking like 2007 will be too

Global warming is here.

oscard · Post by **oscard** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:30 am

Oh dear this sounds dreary..my SO thinks that it won't get much below zero this winter - but is not Finnish though so I'm still hopeful of a bit of a winter in the new year.

Tiwaz · Post by **Tiwaz** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:48 am

oscard wrote:Oh dear this sounds dreary..my SO thinks that it won't get much below zero this winter - but is not Finnish though so I'm still hopeful of a bit of a winter in the new year.

Real cold hits in january and february. Still good time to have nice, freezing weather.

And don't be like frank, if one of the barbarians tells to get more clothes...

Get more clothes. It's really inconvenient to chisel frozen foreigners off the sidewalks.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:53 am

Yes, and you cannot get your gin and tylenol at 3am in a supermarket either

Juha H. · Post by **Juha H.** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:10 am

Average temperatures are about the same. Lots of statistics are available on the FMI website.

http://www.fmi.fi/saa/tilastot_25.html#2

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:22 am

Juha H. wrote:Average temperatures are about the same.

Average during period 1961-1990 = -8.9°C

Average during period 1971-2000 = -7.9°C

I'm no expert, however I'm told a 1 degree shift in average temperature in such a short timescale is significant.

sinikettu · Post by **sinikettu** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:26 am

For those looking for snow here is the snow depth chart.

http://www.fmi.fi/weather/local.html?ne ... 74&param=T

Here is the web camera near the ABC bensín station at Ruka.
http://www.tiehallinto.fi/alk/kelikamer ... 50900.html

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