Anyone used a Micralite Toro pram / travelsystem ?

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Anyone used a Micralite Toro pram / travelsystem ?

Post by Cod » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:00 pm

Well, seems I've 'graduated' to the families forum with a sprog on the way :D

We're looking for cot-pram-pushchair system, and going on Which? magazine's recommendations the Micralite came up trumps - but they hadn't reviewed the entire system, just the push-chair.

Any thoughts would be helpful!

http://www.micralite.com/toro.asp

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Post by Keke » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:32 pm

From the link you've attached, it looks like an interesting design!

There are so many prams, pushchairs, strollers, buggies on the market that it gets confusing!

Due to the Finnish climate, I think one of the factors guiding your choice is where you live. If you live in the centre of Helsinki, prams that would work well in Central Europe seem fine (i.e. like the one in your picture). If you live in the suburbs and will be doing long walks on forest tracks or the like, something a bit more tank-like might be better.

In your pic, the only thing that I reacted to was that those front wheels do look small'ish if you're going be out in a suburb heaving the thing through the snow. There again, if you live in town, they should be fine.

We live in a suburb, so we went simply bought two - a good, solid, tank-like Emmaljunga for where we live - can be knocked and bounced around up kerbs, through snow drifts and on bumpy tracks - just the job, and a light buggy for the car boot for shopping centres and summer days out. In the beginning when we were using the pram, we did have to drag the Emmaljunga round shops and it was clumsy then.

I'm sure there will be other experiences on this forum, but from our experience, four big, solid wheels for the suburbs and a light buggy with swivel front wheels for trips.

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Post by Cod » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:19 pm

I was thinking of that issue too, since we live out in the sticks and walking about the forest is pretty inevitable.

There's an all-terrain kit with the Micralite..

http://www.micralite.com/all_terrain_kit.asp

which gives it big wheels (and locks them in place)

The thing with two 'baby-movers' is it means, like you say, the first 6 months are slightly more tricky, and the cost of a pram and a stroller comes to more than just a Micralite. One feature that's nice on a Micralite is the baby car cot which attaches straight to the push-chair. Emmuljunga has this but the whole travel system is 1000euro+ ie breath taking.

The other problem with the Micralite might be that there's not alot of insulation to the cot, whereas other systems seem to have tonnes of wadding..

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Post by Keke » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:48 pm

The all-terrain kit looks interesting! That could solve the problem.

You're right, it is a bit more expensive with two baby movers. However, over the long-run (especially if you have more kids!) it's not that great a difference, cos you'll need a separate pram and pushchair with two kids anyway. Sturdy prams last well. Also, the tanks (Emmaljunga, Teutonia etc) have pretty good second-hand resale values in Finland.

The standard Emmaljunga, Teutonia, Brio etc (Pram and puschair combos, but not car seat attachment) are not as pricy as the top of the range Emmaljunga (they are approx. EUR 500 to 600). You can then pick up a cheapish stroller for the car. It still sounds a lot, but they are a well-used piece of kit. They also have some good second hand ones on huuto.net.

Good insualtion also helps and is pretty much a necessity here. If you have a summer baby (?), you'll appreciate good insualtion as the baby will be going through its first winter at a tender young age.

I wouldn't perhaps place too much importance on the car seat fixing into the pram, as that first car seat is only good for 9 months anyway. Also, it's easy to lift the baby from the car seat into a pram, or simply carry the car seat from the car into a house.

When buying prams and strollers here in Finland, I've always been more interested in what parents here have said, because what works a treat in the UK might be a hassle in this climate.

The Micralite might fit the bill, but I still am inclined to feel it looks more like the kind of thing that might work better in, say, the UK than here.

Why not go to a few pram shops and see what you think. You'll also get a better idea of how sturdy they are. Snow, grit on the paths, dirt, muddy, slushy kids' boots, raodworks, kerbs, shopping bags knock prams around a lot, so a durable one will last a fews kids!

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Post by kiely » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:29 pm

Hi
I too was going to get the Micralite and indeed I picked one up from a lady on this forum second hand.
However I only got the pushchair.
Now this is great, it is light and easy to push but its handles are not high enough for me at 6" tall.
As it is so light it is brilliant for London or summer here but not for winter weather. Also the space underneath for your shopping is miniscule.
I went for the emma.....but I think while it fits the bill for this country and it's terrain you need to take other factors into account...
1. the size of your lift , if you live in a block.
2. the size of your car boot...
3. is it high enough for you.
All of these are important as you may end up with a bad back and any prevention in making it worse is worth taking into account.
Go to Lastentarvike and take each of them for a spin.
Also check out a site http://www.pingpong-online.de

They seemed alot cheaper.
Looking at the new Micralite system it does look good. But you really don't know until you get it home and start using it.
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Post by Cod » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:13 am

Thanks peoples for all your feedback :D

I posted another topic, hoping we could actually get to go for a spin with one!

The carseat-to-pram feature is something we're sold on since we live in the sticks and even to pick up milk is a drive...so something that means a sleeping baby can go from car to shop to car and home without waking up , ie being carried in a single carseat all the way with no changing, is kind of a determining factor.

Lots of stuff availalbe on ebay uk and de, just figuring out how to get it out here from there (parcels2go in uk) is a little tricky!

Thanks again.

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Post by Rosamunda » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:39 am

cow-heada wrote:Thanks peoples for all your feedback :D

I posted another topic, hoping we could actually get to go for a spin with one!

The carseat-to-pram feature is something we're sold on since we live in the sticks and even to pick up milk is a drive...so something that means a sleeping baby can go from car to shop to car and home without waking up , ie being carried in a single carseat all the way with no changing, is kind of a determining factor.

Lots of stuff availalbe on ebay uk and de, just figuring out how to get it out here from there (parcels2go in uk) is a little tricky!

Thanks again.
Check the weight of the car seat. I DESTROYED my back carrying the Maxicosy I had for my three kids. They are awful things and to use in moderation (eg as a car seat). Imagine a 4.2 kg baby (birth weight) + all the clothes, wet nappy + the weight of the car seat... try holding that in one hand at arms length. :twisted: And honestly, they are really only for tiny babies.

And my 2 cents worth.... don't imagine that your current daily routine will carry on the same + baby in car seat. Chances are that The Way You Do Things will change. Eg, you pick up the milk on your way home from work (for example :wink: ).

BTW congratulations! :beer_yum:

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Post by Sara » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:58 am

Congratulations on baby!

One thing to keep in mind is that a baby should only be in the car seat for 2 hours at a time as its not good for their back. So if you are going shopping using it you need to make sure baby gets a break.

Jaakko was born 1st Nov so we wanted to make sure that the pram would be warm and able to deal with the snow (when it ever turns up!). Emmaljunga prams have a thermobase which is brilliant. The actual pram is also high up off the ground. It also came with the pushcahir bit for when they get older. We bought ours in the summer sale and paid about €600.

We have bought a brio car seat with isofix base and that was €190. We have found that if youre just popping into a shop you can actually put the car seat into the shopping trolley
8)

We decided what we wanted from a pram and hit the baby shops to try stuff out. While there was many we liked the look off, we didnt like them for space, pushing etc.

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Post by Keke » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:19 pm

penelope wrote:And my 2 cents worth.... don't imagine that your current daily routine will carry on the same + baby in car seat. Chances are that The Way You Do Things will change. Eg, you pick up the milk on your way home from work (for example :wink: ).
Yeah, spot on. When we had our first baby, we soon learnt to minimise the number of times we had to take the young one anywhere near a shop! It's amazing how having a baby quickly hones one's logistical and planning skills :wink:


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