Here is my situation, in some lines.
I have a so-called "high tech" Toiminimi, dealing is IT-Software development. Now I have to do all work myself, but since work is getting huge, I would like to hire some people (in fact, I have lot of open positions, including one secretary *lol*). At some point I will convert to Oy company, but for time being its what it is.
I would like to hire some people on fixed term contract (like 3-4 weeks), i.e. mutual agreement about salary, time & work description. What would be legality of such agreement & do I end up paying more (like pensions, social benefits etc.) ?
Often I am told, its quite complicated to hire people in Finland and can also be difficult to get rid off, at later stage! My lawyer said just not to hire anyone.
How to hire people in Finland?
Re: How to hire people in Finland?
I also work in software development, although I have an Oy, not a toiminimi. I basically agree with your lawyer if you are only talking about short-term project-based work.
I try to build up a network of similar professionals to co-operate on projects. Sometimes I work alone, sometimes I want help from other people, and at other times I work on other developer's projects. My prefered approach (as hirer or hiree) is for the person doing the work to provide a quotation and the other person orders that work from them. The person doing the work then charges on a company-to-company basis - i.e. just issue an invoice as for any other work. Thus the worker is not an employee, but a supplier, and you are just buying a service. Is there any reason why that wouldn't work in your case? Of course it restricts you to working with developers who have their own Oy or toiminimi, but that shouldn't be a major problem - not many others would be interested in a short contract.
What sort of work do you do? Maybe it is something I can help with. Send me a PM if you are interested in looking into that.
I try to build up a network of similar professionals to co-operate on projects. Sometimes I work alone, sometimes I want help from other people, and at other times I work on other developer's projects. My prefered approach (as hirer or hiree) is for the person doing the work to provide a quotation and the other person orders that work from them. The person doing the work then charges on a company-to-company basis - i.e. just issue an invoice as for any other work. Thus the worker is not an employee, but a supplier, and you are just buying a service. Is there any reason why that wouldn't work in your case? Of course it restricts you to working with developers who have their own Oy or toiminimi, but that shouldn't be a major problem - not many others would be interested in a short contract.
What sort of work do you do? Maybe it is something I can help with. Send me a PM if you are interested in looking into that.
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Re: How to hire people in Finland?
Exactly. If you "hire somebody"...is like "buying a car" and having to pay the insurance and registration etc. and finding a parking place and all that... instead of "buying the service" as in "taking the taxi".DMC wrote: The person doing the work then charges on a company-to-company basis - i.e. just issue an invoice as for any other work. Thus the worker is not an employee, but a supplier, and you are just buying a service.
Now there is of course a "carpool" system for enterpreneurs, called "osuuskunta"... now that might work in some cases also.
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Re: How to hire people in Finland?
What's that?Now there is of course a "carpool" system for enterpreneurs, called "osuuskunta"...
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Re: How to hire people in Finland?
I think its a co-operative in English. http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osuuskunta
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Re: How to hire people in Finland?
Please let me know where your company is located i.e in which city.
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