what is the possibility?

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Re: what is the possibility?

Post by blaugrau » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:43 am

rauginta_kojine wrote:
blaugrau wrote:Another thing, didn't you say in a different thread that both you and your boyfriend are "permanently domiciled" in Finland? Well, if this is the case, both of you would be eligible for Kela-student money (some 200 Euros per month) incl. rent support. That would make the masters option maybe a bit more realistic, if this option is one he would consider. Could you elaborate a bit on your "bureaucratic" situation?
Yes, we are permanently domiciled. The case is that it is too late now to apply for any master degree, maybe there could be an exception for PhD. i think we are going to Helsinki University this week and talk about all the cases of studying. He doesn't really want to study again (studying , if masters degree, means working in the same time...) after those 6 years in home country university.. you know.
What I'm trying to say is, better not discard any option at this stage but apply for as many different things, in case one or the other route doesn't work out. If he enters a relevant masters programme, and has a crappy job on the side, the crappy job on the side won't show in his CV, because he can say he was studying! And if he should find a great job after he started, then he can still drop out of this masters. And if I understand correctly, it's his CV that the two of you are most concerned.

He could of course "polish" his CV by taking a course relevant to his field, in addition, if your longtime goal is to stay in Finlan,d a Finnish qualification will possibly make a good impression with Finnish employers (or at least they will understand more easily what his degree entailed).

The only Masters course I found in Helsinki was some Spectroscopy programme and the deadline for this one has NOT passed yet (31th of January online or 4th of February postal application deadline), but this programme also has tuition fees of not so little 2000 Euro per year (seems to be some kind of international-eu-glamor-stuff). Maybe it would be good to consider other univeristies too, though.

Anyway, if he's really desperate that due to his CV he can't find a job, then studying would do the trick of "polishing" it, and at the same time give him some extra time to learn Finnish. Because if the studying card is discarded right away, then you'll just face the same problems here as anybody else - that a lack of Finnish skills can work against you. I know a Finnish-Swedish girl who studied Chemistry (just finishing her degree) and who was in my Finnish class because she was really anxious that she might not find a job because she didn't speak fluent Finnish. I don't know if that is representative or reflecting the true situation in the field of chemistry out there, but in any case, it's an additional "burden" on most people looking for work.
And before you know it, another year or two has passed without him having found work, so the studying route is a back up plan with several functions.



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Re: what is the possibility?

Post by raamv » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:15 am

so what is HE actually doing now?
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Re: what is the possibility?

Post by rauginta_kojine » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:27 am

raamv wrote:so what is HE actually doing now?
looking for jobs everywhere and working in the restaurant. On Friday he will registrate again with MOL.

Also, one friend of mine told me that he should put an advertisement to the newspaper. Would it be worthwhile? Do people do that in this country?
Yes, blaugrau, you were right, the worst thing is his CV with shiitty jobs...

Yes, we also were reading Helsinki University webpage and found Spectroscopy in Chemistry. But that wouldnt be only in Finland, they would send him to other universities (means he will not be living in Helsinki with me on those times) and also it is payable... We are also thinking of knowing what are his possibilities to enter PhD. But he really doesn't want to study again, but I see studying as the best option. Of course, if he wouldn't find a job even with finnish degree, that would be so crappy...

Anyways, thank you very much for replies and advices!

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Re: what is the possibility?

Post by Hank W. » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:04 am

rauginta_kojine wrote: Also, one friend of mine told me that he should put an advertisement to the newspaper. Would it be worthwhile? Do people do that in this country?
Why yes, if he is a rent-boy offering "daytime coffee company" :lol: .
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