sauna....

[onkko]

I sat outside to cool down (only seconds tho) when it was -50, that was cold
Im not friend of snowdiving or swimming in frozen lake tho. I just cool down outside
Its somehow relaxing to sit down naked (or only with towel) in -10 and smoke, and with finnish way on conversation. "viileetä", 30sec pause "ni o" while you steam heat out

[Rob A.]

because the sun was shining into it
daft git eejit never in physics class sit...

well.... and i was exactly thinking the same thing... but then again i thought what the heck... in winter when snow directly puts its ass on the top of it, it would go crazy... reading below minus 100C off i threw ..... now again my curosity is..... if that ulkona thermometer gives wacky readings...just because sun directly shines into it or snow covers it up, should we still be trusting goddamn thermometer? or perhaps it's a matter of position??? if that's case... the case gets even crazier!! we all know how difficult it is to find the right position for our anteena where it picks up strongest signal!!

Good grief!! No wonder old Hank W. was driven insane... Foreigners!!! They just don't seem to know what everyone knows!!!

It's the temperature in the shade that you measure, otherwise you get a false reading...the sun, through radiant heating, heats up the thermometer.. And if you stick a thermometer in the snow, it may very well, depending on weather conditions give you a temperature HIGHER than the air temperature.... That's why Eskimos traditionally lived in igloos...not out in the open-air...Though that's only part of the story, but snow can be a very effective insulator... All that trapped air....

http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/m ... nowcover/1

Excerpt:

"To give an example of how well snow insulates the ground, the mean January air temperature at Goose Bay, Labrador is -16.4 degrees Celsius, while the mean January soil temperature at 5 cm depth is only -2.1 degrees Celsius."


...and here's another Canadian link on "Snowy Facts"...written for the simple minded I think...


http://resources.yesican-science.ca/tre ... _snowy.pdf

[Karhunkoski]

Oh dear.

[Rabs]

...........It's the temperature in the shade that you measure, otherwise you get a false reading...the sun, through radiant heating, heats up the thermometer.. And if you stick a thermometer in the snow, it may very well, depending on weather conditions give you a temperature HIGHER than the air temperature....

i think it was what she was saying while screaming at me.... i could only hear screaming part!! anyway... thanx for info

[Pursuivant]

if that ulkona thermometer gives wacky readings...just because sun directly shines into it or snow covers it up, should we still be trusting goddamn thermometer? or perhaps it's a matter of position???

maybe you need to calculate an average temperature. those electronic ones work pretty well but the same thing applies, the position should be somewhere in a shade. usually you need to make a compromise of a window you can see the thermometer from.

[Pursuivant]

.the sun, through radiant heating, heats up the thermometer..

one thing the thermometer doesn't tell is the wind chill factor. its not much use clothing up lightly as its only -5 if its wind coming from the open sea

[mrjimsfc]

Why not do the sauna thing the way the Finns do it? The sauna is meant to be an enjoyable occasion. If any part of the experience stops being enjoyable, stop doing that part and move on to one of the other parts. I believe that most Finnish men enjoy drinking a lot while being naked, so they do more of that than anything else (especially the drinking).

[Ktulu]

one thing the thermometer doesn't tell is the wind chill factor.

It does if you get a "wet bulb" thermometer.