Buying fresh meat from the farmer

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Re: Buying fresh meat from the farmer

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:48 pm

Alicia wrote: This also happens with moose that is sold in the supermarket. I believe that meat can be given away without it, but not sold for profit.
when the eu rules came into force there was a lot of huff with the reindeer farmers up north as they had been used to doing the slaughtering in a different manner. you can order reindeer meat from a few places directly


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Re: Buying fresh meat from the farmer

Post by hackoff » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:14 am

Pursuivant wrote:do they have cows grazing there in sörnäinen?
i said fresh meat not fresh cows

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Post by Pursuivant » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:15 pm

well its not buying from the farmer at the farm innit?
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Post by onkko » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:53 am

hackoff wrote:you can buy fresh meat ( cow , lamb ) from halal liha
adr : Kulmavuorenkatu near sörnäinen metro station
Halal and fresh, @#$% off. Halal = butchered with no remorse, not fresh. Like any sane person would let their herd to be killed like that. Saying allah is proper way to stun FFS! Some dignity to animals too please, i will eat them but i wont condone cruelty like halal !"#¤%.
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Post by Karhunkoski » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:03 am

There are some differences between what people "think" happens when halal meat is prepared, and what actually happens, in some cases.

For example, in Europe, when chickens are killed, they are stunned first (either gas or electrically), before having their throats cut. This is normal procedure and if you add in an islamic blessing, it can be sold as "halal". It is ok for halal-destined animals to be stunned, the important thing to ensure it meets halal legislation is:

- the stun must not kill the animal, the animal must be capable of recovering from the stun

- the death must be a result of throat cut/bleed (which is what happens anyway for "normal" chicken in Europe)


In summary, the only difference in this example between "normal" chicken and "halal" chicken is the blessing it has received, and last time I looked, "blessing" an animal wasn't classes as cruelty. :roll:
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Re: Buying fresh meat from the farmer

Post by hackoff » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:05 am

onkko wrote:
hackoff wrote:you can buy fresh meat ( cow , lamb ) from halal liha
adr : Kulmavuorenkatu near sörnäinen metro station
Halal and fresh, @#$% off. Halal = butchered with no remorse, not fresh. Like any sane person would let their herd to be killed like that. Saying allah is proper way to stun FFS! Some dignity to animals too please, i will eat them but i wont condone cruelty like halal !"#¤%.
cruelty like halal ! what are you saying ?! do you know what does halal mean ?! dont be stupid !

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Post by onkko » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:47 pm

hackoff wrote:
onkko wrote:
hackoff wrote:you can buy fresh meat ( cow , lamb ) from halal liha
adr : Kulmavuorenkatu near sörnäinen metro station
Halal and fresh, @#$% off. Halal = butchered with no remorse, not fresh. Like any sane person would let their herd to be killed like that. Saying allah is proper way to stun FFS! Some dignity to animals too please, i will eat them but i wont condone cruelty like halal !"#¤%.
cruelty like halal ! what are you saying ?! do you know what does halal mean ?! dont be stupid !
I know, it means that unstunned/alive animal throat is cutted that makes meat "halal", we are speaking about meat here. Halal means something what outdated book of pedofil and massmurderer says is ok (like old testament and partly new testament that shouldnt be part of society or human lives). To me that is unnecessary cruelty. What it means to you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabihah
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Post by hackoff » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:23 pm

in the link given above
# The slaughter itself must be done by a sane (mentally competent) adult Muslim. Some Muslims also consider it acceptable to eat the meat slaughtered by "People of the Book" (Arabic: Ahle-kitaab, i.e, Christians and Jews) On the other hand, some Islamic schools of thought state that except in the case of extreme necessity, the meat slaughtered by People of the Book should not be eaten.
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Post by Travmies » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:28 pm

Look, all i wanted to know was, where could I buy fresh meat from a farmer in the local area. As long as the animal is not kill by the guy on this forum who enjoys a fight, I don't give a !"#¤%.
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Post by antstar » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:35 pm

Travmies wrote:Look, all i wanted to know was, where could I buy fresh meat from a farmer in the local area. As long as the animal is not kill by the guy on this forum who enjoys a fight, I don't give a !"#¤%.
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Re: Buying fresh meat from the farmer

Post by Pursuivant » Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:55 pm

hackoff wrote:The slaughter itself must be done by a sane (mentally competent) adult Muslim.
so in other words it is a discriminatory practice you cannot not employ an atheist retard butcher in finland.
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Post by Pursuivant » Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:56 pm

antstar wrote:[well you should know this forum by now, you start a topic about eating worms and it ends up being about flower arranging
theres always someone to rearrange the worms
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