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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by carolinemaher » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:59 pm

I meant cream you can cook with, like for a decent coq au vin, cheesecake, most tarts like quiche lorraine which need the fat content of double cream for the richness of the dish. You've listed 4 different types of cream, 1 is a coffee cream (kahvikerma), 1 is cream for strawberries (manssikkakerma) which I obviously can't use for cooking with, whipping cream (vispikerma) is what is says, good for piling on desserts, which leaves kuohukerma which I thought that was a whipping cream too, is this not the case then and its just a thick ruoka kerma that you can use in savoury dishes too? It's just a product I wish was sold here that's all.



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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by sammy » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:03 pm

carolinemaher wrote:I meant cream you can cook with, like for a decent coq au vin
I was under the impression that a DECENT coq au vin is rather cooked with something they sell in 0.75 litre bottles, not cream... :wink:

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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by onkko » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:08 pm

sammy wrote:
carolinemaher wrote:I meant cream you can cook with, like for a decent coq au vin
I was under the impression that a DECENT coq au vin is rather cooked with something they sell in 0.75 litre bottles, not cream... :wink:
Europullo is 0,7 litres ;) You remember old bottles.
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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by carolinemaher » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:14 pm

Your right Sammy, both wine and cream even better though!!

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Post by EP » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:00 pm

I use both kuohukerma and vispikerma for cooking. They behave just fine.

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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:17 pm

only difference I see in kuohukerma and vispikerma is that the latter one is UHT so it keeps a bit longer, kuohukerma is the "fresh" stuff
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Post by Jukka Aho » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:49 pm

carolinemaher wrote:I meant cream you can cook with
Most of the cream products on that list are suitable for cooking. But I have now removed those that weren’t and added descriptions straight from the original product pages:
  • Valio kuohukerma 1,5 l HYLA (38%)

    Kaikkeen ruoanvalmistukseen, jälkiruokiin ja leivontaan sellaisenaan tai vaahdotettuna. HYLA kuohukerma kestää hyvin kuumennusta. Vaahdotettaessa tilavuus kaksinkertaistuu.
  • Valio kuohukerma 2 dl HYLA (35%)

    Kaikkeen ruoanvalmistukseen, jälkiruokiin ja leivontaan sellaisenaan tai vaahdotettuna. HYLA kuohukerma kestää hyvin kuumennusta. Vaahdotettaessa tilavuus kaksinkertaistuu.
  • Valio kuohukerma 3,3 dl HYLA (35%)

    Kaikkeen ruoanvalmistukseen, jälkiruokiin ja leivontaan sellaisenaan tai vaahdotettuna. HYLA kuohukerma kestää hyvin kuumennusta. Vaahdotettaessa tilavuus kaksinkertaistuu.
  • Valio kuohukerma 1 l (35%)

    Kaikkeen ruoanvalmistukseen, jälkiruokiin ja leivontaan sellaisenaan tai vaahdotettuna. Kuohukerma kestää hyvin kuumennusta. Vaahdotettaessa tilavuus kaksinkertaistuu.
  • Valio kuohukerma 2 dl (35%)

    Kaikkeen ruoanvalmistukseen, jälkiruokiin ja leivontaan sellaisenaan tai vaahdotettuna. Kuohukerma kestää hyvin kuumennusta. Vaahdotettaessa tilavuus kaksinkertaistuu.
  • Valio kuohukerma 0,5 l (35%)

    Kaikkeen ruoanvalmistukseen, jälkiruokiin ja leivontaan sellaisenaan tai vaahdotettuna. Kuohukerma kestää hyvin kuumennusta. Vaahdotettaessa tilavuus kaksinkertaistuu.
  • Valio laktoositon vispikerma 2 dl UHT (38%)

    Jälkiruokiin, leivonnaisiin, juomien koristeluun, kahviin. Perunakiusauksiin; muihin lämpimiin ruokiin lisätään valmistuksen loppuvaiheessa. Ruoanvalmistukseen suosittelemme Valio laktoositonta ruokakermaa.
  • Valio vispikerma 2 dl UHT HYLA (38%)

    Jälkiruokiin, leivonnaisiin, juomien koristeluun, kahviin. Perunakiusauksiin; muihin lämpimiin ruokiin lisätään valmistuksen loppuvaiheessa. Ruoanvalmistukseen suosittelemme Valio laktoositonta ruokakermaa.
  • Valio vispikerma 0,5 l UHT HYLA (38%)

    Jälkiruokiin, leivonnaisiin, juomien koristeluun, kahviin. Perunakiusauksiin; muihin lämpimiin ruokiin lisätään valmistuksen loppuvaiheessa. Ruoanvalmistukseen suosittelemme Valio laktoositonta ruokakermaa.
  • Valio luomuvispikerma 2dl UHT, HYLA (35%)

    Jälkiruokiin, leivonnaisiin, juomien koristeluun, kahviin. Perunakiusauksiin; muihin lämpimiin ruokiin lisätään valmistuksen loppuvaiheessa.
  • Valio vispikerma 1 l UHT HYLA (38%)

    Jälkiruokiin, leivonnaisiin, juomien koristeluun, kahviin. Perunakiusauksiin; muihin lämpimiin ruokiin lisätään valmistuksen loppuvaiheessa. Ruoanvalmistukseen suosittelemme Valio laktoositonta ruokakermaa.
  • Valio vispikerma 1 l laktoositon UHT (38%)

    Jälkiruokiin, leivonnaisiin, juomien koristeluun, kahviin. Perunakiusauksiin; muihin lämpimiin ruokiin lisätään valmistuksen loppuvaiheessa. Ruoanvalmistukseen suosittelemme Valio laktoositonta ruokakermaa.
  • Ingman Kuohukerma (35%)

    Kestää keittämisen, haudutuksen ja uunissa paistamisen.
  • Ingman kuohukerma, INTO (35%)

    Kestää keittämisen, haudutuksen ja uunissa paistamisen.
  • Ingman Laktoositon vispikerma (36%)

    Laktoositon, iskukuumennettu (UHT) vaihtoehto ruoanlaittoon ja leivontaan.
  • Ingman Vispikerma, INTO (36%)

    Kestää keittämisen, haudutuksen ja uunissa paistamisen. Iskukuumennettu (UHT) väkälaktoosinen [sic!] tuote.
The Ingman site also features sample recipes relevant to the product on the right-hand column, such as Grillatut poronsisäfileet ja punaviinikastike, Äyriäispata, or Vaniljainen brûlée.
 
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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by Rosamunda » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:49 pm

carolinemaher wrote:Sinikala - thanks for the link, I can only dream of the clotted cream (55% fat - hurrah) with jam on a scone, obviously not something to be eaten every day but deeelicious! Same goes for double cream (48%) I just can't make a load of recipes without it, really wish I could find thicker cream in Finland than 15% kerma :(
Crème Fraîche. (Valio) 28%

It's in all the supermarkets.

Valio crème fraîche
Crème fraîche is a fermented cream traditionally used in cooking, most especially in France. It has a rather thick...
Page location: Home » Company information » Products » Fresh dairy products » Cooking products » Valio crème fraîche


The link is corrupt... but it is somewhere in their webpages.

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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by carolinemaher » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:07 pm

I do use creme fraiche, not quite the same texture and taste but its the next best thing.

Thanks for the info about the Valio products I get the jist of things even with my beginners Finnish. Guess I'll give the Kuohokerma a bash then..

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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by Jukka Aho » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:15 pm

penelope wrote:
carolinemaher wrote:wish I could find thicker cream in Finland than 15% kerma :(
Crème Fraîche. (Valio) 28%

It's in all the supermarkets.
Neither of the two big dairy companies seem to have a crème fraîche product on the market with as much fat content as the various kuohukerma and vispikerma products (or the “double cream”, etc. grade products in the UK) though:
It should probably also be noted that crème fraîche is not just plain cream but a soured cream product, just like the Russian-origin smetana (40% fat content or more.) (The Nordic Recipe Archive “Milk products” web page, to which I already linked earlier in this thread, has more information about both crème fraîche and smetana.)
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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by carolinemaher » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:44 pm

Now you've done it Jukka! the link you gave mentioned my favourite butter - Danish Lurpak - which I REALLY wish I could find here too, mind you I did find fresh 'cut off the block' organic butter at the lentave lehma cheese stand at Hakaniemi market this week which was absolutely delicious (not something you can afford every week, but its there)..

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Post by Pursuivant » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:34 pm

which is smetana you need you obviously go to the Estonian deli and get hapukoor in a plastic bag of 200g or 500g at fraction of the price that jarred smetana from valio or ingman.
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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by enk » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:45 pm

Or you take a clean jar, a container of kuohukerma when it's been marked down and a dinky
container of smetana and make some of your own ;)

My MIL uses kuohukerma when she makes salmon: one salmon file, one container of kuohukerma
and fresh dill. Put salmon skin up, liberally dose with dill and pour cream over. Cook until just right.

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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by Jukka Aho » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:39 pm

carolinemaher wrote:Now you've done it Jukka! the link you gave mentioned my favourite butter - Danish Lurpak - which I REALLY wish I could find here too
Arla/Ingman seems to have Lurpak butter available as catering portions for wholesale customers, but not as a retail product in regular size packs:
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Re: How to use kerma 5% or 15% or etc...

Post by Pursuivant » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:14 am

enk wrote: My MIL uses kuohukerma when she makes salmon
Estonians use hapukoor in everything... in sauces say like the "finnish style" cabbage rolls are with syrup, the estonians do the sauce with hapukoor... which then again does "work" quite well so if I meet any Estonian girls the first question is on sinu vanaema hea kokka? oled mitagi oppinud?
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